Friday, June 05, 2009

Better check your premise...

In a column dripping with pretentious hipster scorn for the ignorant cousin-marrying hillbilly rednecks of Kentucky taking guns to church, Gawker writer "The Cajun Boy" opines
Jesus must be looking down on all of this beaming with pride right now. You just know if he were down here with us he'd be packing, and probably using his heat to murder OB/GYNs who perform abortions.
No he wouldn't, you ignorant tool; it's illegal to bring a gun to church in the state of Kansas. You know, so people won't get shot.


(H/T John the Red, via email.)

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

In Colonial America it was mandatory that one would bring his gun to Sunday Services.

After the sermon, at the "gun show", it was often the pastor, or a deacon, that would inspect one's firearm and ensure it was in working order.

Shootin' Buddy

Tam said...

Well, they were obviously ignorant hillbillies, too. They probably never even watched a single episode of American Idol!

Anonymous said...

Hmmm, I think even saying "idol" would have rated a beating or, at very least, additional chores.

Shootin' Buddy

Anonymous said...

I love the comment that points out they are viewing gun owners like they claim religious folks are viewing gays.

And yet it doesn't stick, they still excuse it. Amazing.

NotClauswitz said...

Jesus kicked the money changers out of the temple, not the physicians.
Why do they hate preaching, "Love your neighbor," and "Do unto others as you would have them do to you," - religion so much? Just because it wasn't what Marx said about class envy and job-jealousy?

Rabbit said...

Maybe it's just my stray Viking genes speaking, but I always thought a place was *safer* when everybody inside was armed.

I know we never had any trouble at my coffeehouse- but then, there was occasionally at least one table at which someone was assembling or cleaning an EBR.

Regards,
Rabbit.

Johnnyreb™ said...

'The Cajun Boy' would likely suffer an embolism, if he knew of the Shooting Matches at the local Church of Christ here in Ohio ...

TJP said...

Progressives only care because they recently made some inroads with the religious vote. Too cynical?

Even if it were legal to carry to mass in Kansas, murder is still illegal. Well, unless an umbilical cord is still attached. Too soon?

treefroggy said...

I suspect that if JC were of such a mind, he's use something more "rath-of-god'ish"; like lightning or falling amphibians. Much more impressive with a greater terminal velocity.

Sigivald said...

People read this "gawker" thing?

Every time I've had the misfortune to glance at it, it's been utterly stupid and vile-minded trash.

Kristopher said...

I've found that this website has a more correct view of hipsters than Gawker.

Stranger said...

Yep, it's illegal to bring a gun to church in Kansas - and some think it's illegal to bring a gun to church anywhere.

But Jesus said "Empty your purse, and buy a weapon. Sell your purse, and buy a weapon. Sell your clothes and go naked, but buy a weapon."

While that has been toned down a lot - that's the real Boss speaking. And when the Boss Speaks this Stranger listens.

Stranger

Mikael said...

Even me, an atheist, knows more about christianity than that guy. Jesus wouldn't be shooting anybody.

Besides, christianity is nothing but a population thought control tool, the bible first published by order of a roman emperor who feared the villagers in outlying settlements(even today's english word villain comes from villager), and it's just a mishmash, putting a kinder spin on the jewish god with a good dollop of astrology sun worship(from various religions).

Jesus' birth sequence and life story is the same as dozens of other older religious figures. Pretty much identical to for example Horus, worshiped by the ancient egyptians.

TimP said...

I can only think of one occasion where Jesus spoke on the subject of carrying weapons: Luke 22:36-38. Perhaps it's just me but that sound pretty positive.

Also the context at the time is the Jewish equivalent of missionary team getting together for Christmas dinner, and the swords where most likely short swords [military side-arms] that would have been carried inside the robes [concealed].

Also @Mikael, what are you talking about with sun worship? The best I can come up with is that it's because Christians say that they worship the Son, but it's purely coincidence that son and sun sound the same in English, they don't in Greek.

og said...

"is the same as dozens of other older religious figures. "

Wow. You mean I studied comparative theology for six years and utterly missed that?

Wait, that would be because it's bullshit. Mikael, don't believe everything you read on Wikipedia in five minutes of googling.

Jesus, for instance, didn't have the head of an eagle or falcon. At least there is nothing in the four gospels to suggest that. Additionally, Jesus was, by all accounts, an actual person, where Horus is strictly mythical. Our calendar is based on the actual birth of Jesus, (however innacurately) so we understand it must have been some kind of event. Also, from all records, Jesus never squirted semen on lettuce and fed it to his enemies. If you're gonna smoke that shit, at least share it.

Ambulance Driver said...

"Cajun Boy," my ass.

He doesn't think like a Cajun.

He's probably some hippie liberal from New Orleans, which is to say he isn't even from Louisiana at all.

Somerled said...

It is indeed illegal to carry concealed in churches here in Kansas under most circumstances. And Dr. Tiller wasn't the first person to be murdered in a Kansas church. I can think of at least one other murder committed in a church. In 1988 Tom DeWeese was killed and four others wounded by Taiwanese student Cheun-Phon Ji, 29, in a church in Emporia, KS. Needless to say, Ji felt no need to abide by several laws. So much for Shalom zones.

Here's a link to a 2007 story about Jerry Waddell, who tackled Ji before he could reload a 9mm pistol.

"It did happen here. It could happen again, and we need to be on our guard."

http://www.emporiagazette.com/news/2007/apr/19/it_did_happen_here/

The Holy Spirit moves me to carry a firearm as one of many means to defend against those bound to commit evil acts. Some are called to be teachers, prophets, healers, etc. My gift is to protect.

Tam said...

"Our calendar is based on the actual birth of Jesus, (however innacurately) so we understand it must have been some kind of event."

Whoah up.

In the Sixth Century, a monk studied the scriptures and said "Ummm... I think Jesus was born... about 525 years ago, so we'll call this the 525th Year of our Lord," and they went from there. It's not like they changed their clocks in 33AD or anything. The Romans did take a census in Judea, though, while Cyrenius was governor, but it happened in the year we now call 7AD, so either Luke or the Monk wasn't so hot at calendar work...

jimbob86 said...

Um, Tam..... I am not so sure you can't CCW in church in KS.... when I asked at KSCarry, they said it had to be posted as a GFZ..... and somone else pointed this out to joemerchant:

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5561206234016063036&postID=3545936263213792229

mts1 said...

Also, from all records, Jesus never squirted semen on lettuce and fed it to his enemies. If you're gonna smoke that shit, at least share it.

When are you coming back, Og?

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Anyway, birthdays weren't as big of a thing back then as they are now. That's why a lot of "real historical" figures like emperors and the like have a c. before the birth year. Everyone gets born, so what? Why mark the date? Due to the utter lack of cheap paper, records weren't what they were after vellum was developed, so birth records were non-existent, as well as marriage and baptisms (esp. so before 325 a.D.).

og said...

"Whoah up."

I did very clearly state "However innacurately". And yes, i am aware of all the facts you relate; For $500, Alex, did you know that the monk in question was named "Dionysius Elegius" or Dennis the Short?

You mess with the bull.... And unquestionably, I am the Bull.

og said...

Sorry, Exiguous. My latin is rusty at 0600. Damn, cut myself on it. Now I'm gonna have to get a latinous shot.