Sunday, January 06, 2013

I hate Connecticut Nazis...

Thinking further on CT bigot Stephen Dargan's proposal to make public the names of handgun carry permit holders in his state, I've been pondering other steps that he could take to address the right of people to feel safe after the media has gotten done scaring their pants off like a James Wan film festival.

For example, to allow normal people to ride public transit without having to fear that the person next to them is carrying a hidden gun, perhaps they could put a special section for gun owners in the back of city buses?

27 comments:

LC Scotty said...

We could always make them wear bright yellow gun shaped badges.

Anonymous said...

They could place gun owners in special ghettos for re-education.

Gerry

Bubblehead Les. said...

He might want to rethink his "Segregation Plan." Turns out when that Rag in New York did their "Outing" a few weeks ago, Prison Guards, LEOs, and Judges were also "Exposed." Now how would he like to have to face all those Connecticut Cops and their Unions when he lets the Goblins know where they live?

But if tries to Publish only the so-Called "Civilians" and let the LEOs get a pass.....

NAVIGATOR said...

ARE TORCH LIGHT PARADES NEXT?

Steve Skubinna said...

Good thing they're still being "reasonable" and only proposing "common sense" measures.

docjim505 said...

I suppose that we can take some solace from the fact that the grabbers have to stoop to this sort of intimidation and demonization: they know that they are, if not outnumbered, then at least not in the overwhelming majority of our people.

On the other hand, these people are deadly serious and will clearly stick at nothing to get their way.

Old NFO said...

This one doesn't pass the Jews in the Attic... Just sayin...

Anonymous said...

Bubblehead Les called it--this plan will work about as well as that of the publisher of the White Plain's Journal-Block Captain's did.

Even if it is Connecticut we're talking about. Some of those outed will surprise the Gunfinder-General and his adherents by having a supposedly correct party affiliation. You can never really tell about people, sometimes.

Mike James

Anonymous said...

No apostrophe in White Plains. Me stupid.

Mike James

og said...

Well, the gunnies know that it exposes the unarmed as much as the armed, and is actually more dangerous to them. Plus, if this is based on 73's, or some firearms owner card obtained locally, then the liklihood that the list is accurate approaches zero. I'd love to repeal gca68, but looking at the empty shelves of the gunstores and the "Out of stock" on all the websites, I suspect that gunnies are winning- perhaps even have won- the battle for hearts and minds here.

staghounds said...

I do not know if Ct. is "shall issue" or not.

If, like NY and Ca, it is "may issue", then the names of the favoured ones SHOULD be public.

We ought to know who our Masters believe deserves the gift of self defence.

Ken said...

Summary of CT gun law here: http://www.cga.ct.gov/2007/rpt/2007-R-0369.htm

Connecticut is sometimes referred to as a "permissive" may-issue state. It certainly is may-issue, but permits are reputedly easy (howsoever defined) to get, at least compared to neighboring states. In practice, there appears to be a certain amount of the Miracle of Selective Enforcement in action. Anyone open-carrying legally will nonetheless be arrested in certain cities, at least by reputation. Despite that, there is a fairly active gun culture there, dealers advertise extensively in print and on radio (dunno about TV, as I watched very little while working there the last two years), and both Colt and Stag manufacture there.

Chalkie said...

I like this. All the legal gun owners in the back of the bus, where we can keep an eye on all of those people who haven't gone through a background check.

Anonymous said...

I want the names of the illegal gun carriers.

Oh, they don't cooperate and give their names?

So that is what it is really about. Punish the law abiding, and reward the criminals...

Nothing new to readers on this site.

TheSev said...

Wow, 15th comment before the irony of this nimrod's name is noted.

Is the snark weakening here?

TheSev said...

Ok, not the headline guy, the 2nd one.

I snark meself for that.

Ed Foster said...

Connecticut permit holder since 1969. You need a course in gunhandling and basic firearms law, three letters of recommendation from permit holders, clergymen, police officers or public officials who have known you for more than five years, plus the typical FBI background check.

You get your local permit first, then send it in to the State Police in Meriden (I always do my renewals in person, much faster).

If you get yanked around by the local police chief (it happens sometimes) you go to the review board, which is composed of one each, gun person, police person, and lawyer person who is agreed to as neutral by both of the first

Suprisingly, or perhaps not in a state where every gun club has lots of police members, the decisions are almost unanimous.

I had a guy I know pretty well ask me for a letter of recommendation. He is as nuts as squirrel shit and fits the mall shooter profile to a tee, but I gave him a glowing letter of recommendation to stay on his good side.

I then wrote another letter to the review board explaining that I gave him the recommendation letter under duress, expressed my admittedly unprofessional view of his stability or lack thereof, and told them where to look to find certifiable information concerning his numerous minor run-ins with John Law.

He didn't get the permit, but he thinks I'm still a great guy.

He's still in Mommy and Daddy's house (alone now that they are gone), now unable to work due to mental problems, and in posession of a dozen or more longarms. He still has several centerfire handguns, which he carries in violation of the law.

But he's scared spitless of cops, and it's only a matter of time before he gets stopped, gets found carrying, and gets put somewhere he can't hurt anybody.

Nothing is perfect, but we have a really decent permit system here, and I don't know anybody who is fairly functional who has had a problem getting a permit.

And I have been swamped by calls from friends and friends of friends for information on getting a pistol permit. That's the second big rush going on around here. Everybody wants a permit for fear they won't be able to get one further down the road. Even some liberals.

Bram said...

Story on Drudge today - NY prisoners now know where all their Guards live.

acairfearann said...

You know, I keep thinking I missed something...when I got my Ct. permit (2009) there were no letters of recommendation needed, or mentioned, or anything. Unless I have completely forgotten, but they aren't mentioned in state law either?? It was, in fact, an entirely painless process (full disclosure, I'd just moved back from the UK, the country that perfected the art of queuing so my 'painless' might be warped).

Or is my experience so wildly different from Ed Foster due to where I live and what profile I fit (young, white, female)? In which case something is even more rotten than I thought. My curiosity has been solidly piqued...

Ed Foster said...

Seems odd, but maybe the gent at the local P.D. handling you application gave you a pass. There used to be a five letter requirement, but it got dropped to three the odd decade or so ago.

A tad scary, that. If the anti-gunners start looking into the paperwork handling and find exceptions, it would make lovely fodder for the Yellow Press.

Please tell me you took the training course and submitted the instructor's acceptance sheet when you brought down the passport photos.

Virtually all the cops I know(below the rank of Chief, when they stop being cops and start being politicians) are rabidly pro-gun, but even a nice guy pro-gunner can give us bad press if he makes it look like there's favoritism involved.

Ed Foster said...

I just checked with Connecticut Citizen's Defense League, and it turns out that the three letters business is the most common form of background check used by a majority of Connecticut towns, but isn't mandated by the State.

However, it's the most common usage, and the Firearms Review Board feels comfortable with it.

I also didn't realize that out-of-staters could get CT permits simply by writing directly to the Commissioner and submitting their own state's license. I would imagine it is mostly security and bank guards and such, but it's still kind of a good thing, aqnd they still have the right to dispute anything they don't feel is fair by going to the review board, where two out of three takes it.

perlhaqr said...

Kinda makes me wonder. Do you think any of them would even get it if we started wearing such armbands as a protest?

Ken said...

perlhaqr: Cut, jib, newsletter.

Anonymous said...

Ed, you really think all that crap is reasonable? Letters of reference, 'prove' you are a good guy in the first place before exercising your rights? I'm Sad.

I'm seriously considering yellow patches. Maybe we can get JPFO to sell them.
-Erik from Seattle

acairfearann said...

Ed,
Training course, fingerprints, background check, passport, everything that is actually required by state statute but nothing more.

Actually, in my town the whole thing is handled by the state police up in Canaan because we don't have a town police department. Perhaps that is why the letters aren't used? None the less, it does seem like application varies in both directions and that is most assuredly not a good thing.

Anonymous said...

Although politicians think they are secure and unfindable because they are often allowed special exemptions from public gov property tax and DL databases they are findable where their butts lie the most. In most states the party primary election voter roles are available on request (by law) and what good politician can resist the chance to vote for himself. I mean otherwise how would the party's know who to harrasss for money. hm, name? check, address? check, stupid rabbit voter roles are good for the lobbyist too. Screw emailing the office, knock on his door and tell his wife how he should vote.

Anonymous said...

I used to live in CT, and the process for a permit was the same as described above back in the early 90's. I moved out right around the time of the AR ban, but that was just good timing.

To make up for that lack of action then, I'm thinking I'm going to do as much as I can legally do to support the other candidate in the next election of anyone who votes to ban guns. I don't care if that other candidate also hates guns. If you vote for it, I'm doing what I can, legally, to get you out. That extends to vulnerable and outspoken pols in other districts too, money talks.