tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post2932189563228312165..comments2023-11-10T04:17:00.492-05:00Comments on View From The Porch: Executive privilege?Tamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-29207563839006647252012-07-11T15:13:48.993-04:002012-07-11T15:13:48.993-04:00"Really, my entire adult life partisans of bo..."Really, my entire adult life partisans of both sides claimed the other guy was going to nullify the results of the election through the pretext of an emergency and set himself up as Presidente For Life."<br /><br />I've often wondered about that one too--and even in the more general form, wherein every ageing generation decries the imminent fall of the universe...just like they remember gramps and gran doing before them. Hm.<br /><br />The most frustrating part of all that, of course, is that it's so darned <i>useful</i> to the tyrants. "See, those crackpots predicted the end of the world, and since you can see plainly that you're still here, you can now safely ignore anything further they may say."<br /><br />But as with any stereotype, there has to be some nugget of truth in there, or it would just go away completely of its own accord. What I think is absolutely true is that I wouldn't hold a single one of them as above it--that is, any of those impersonators of actual human beings is fully <i>capable</i> of doing it, and it just might even happen some day. But none of us can know just when, or how.<br /><br />It's like being in Condition Orange. You have fully identified your target, and are fully aware that you may have to engage him at any time, but he hasn't made his move on <i>you</i> yet, and you can't get away from the SOB.<br /><br />Orange is f$cking <i>exhausting</i>; uninterrupted it is probably unsustainable past a certain point. Managing that discipline is <i>tough</i>. I don't think I do a particularly good job at it myself--one of the reasons I love <a href="http://www.backwoodshome.com/blogs/ClaireWolfe/" rel="nofollow">Claire</a> so much--but we have to keep our heads at the time that we most need to keep our heads.<br /><br />Look at it this way: if and when such a thing finally does happen, then this much is certain: the burden of contemplation will be over. We'll still have problems, sure, but they'll be different ones.Kevin Wilmethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18368887768008126052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-28665030796761961262012-06-25T12:38:48.040-04:002012-06-25T12:38:48.040-04:00The only logical conclusion is that Holder knows w...The only logical conclusion is that Holder knows where the bodies are buries.<br /><br />Actual, literal human bodies.Phelpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06270536870200063563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-46281393288161145562012-06-24T17:52:25.183-04:002012-06-24T17:52:25.183-04:00Besides, if Holder has evidence on bho, BFD. bho&#...Besides, if Holder has evidence on bho, BFD. bho's whole admin is a house of cards. This is just one of those cards.Pathfindernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-34301008271214961342012-06-24T17:51:15.444-04:002012-06-24T17:51:15.444-04:00The exec priv is an attempt to push this past the ...The exec priv is an attempt to push this past the election. Courts do not typically like the whole exec priv thing, but by the time it reaches a level where bho hasn't polluted the water with statists, damage done, election over.Pathfindernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-75643356123648031082012-06-24T03:45:11.992-04:002012-06-24T03:45:11.992-04:00Og, as you should know, that's not real tinfoi...Og, as you should know, that's not real tinfoil, but aluminum. Now, if you were really serious you would make a mu-metal-foil hat. That stops, or at least attenuates, the magnetic fields. H/t, Stephen DenBeste.Justthisguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17277333206171756636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-4618216393488876392012-06-23T14:27:55.935-04:002012-06-23T14:27:55.935-04:00Ok, my 2 cents. How much damage is done if it'...Ok, my 2 cents. How much damage is done if it's uncovered that a sitting President and his. AG conspired to hang strawman purchases on legit F.F.L. dealers cross-border to the cartels, to support more draconian legislation/prohibitions? Holder could have hard evidence of Barry's subverting the constitution he took an oath to defend, but it went sideways when guns they let go showup at crimescenes w/ dead Fed agents. Or, Holder has hard evidence that Barry ain't qualified to be de Prez, so no under carriage bus rides f/ Eric.... JohninMd(help!?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-28579520338143585572012-06-23T09:01:24.225-04:002012-06-23T09:01:24.225-04:00I think that everyone in this Administration think...I think that everyone in this Administration thinks they're a lot smarter than they really are, and that a series of tactical rope-a-dope moves will delay this until after the election. What's interesting is that the news embargo is broken, because Exec Priv is a big deal inside the beltway.<br /><br />Sure, hundreds dead is a big deal to you and me, but that's all outside the beltway stuff.<br /><br />I'll know that Holder has dirt on Obama when we see a blanket pardon for all acts associated with F&F, granted on 19 January.<br /><br />If the Stupid Party really wants to play hard ball, this tactical move won't do anything. All the new SecState will need to do is whisper in the ear of the Mexican Foreign Minister that they should ask for Holder to be extradited. The pardon doesn't help him there.<br /><br />But I'm just a racist jerk, or something.Borepatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05029434172945099693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-16294537975121490042012-06-23T08:06:59.915-04:002012-06-23T08:06:59.915-04:00Ken- the thing about the Obama takeover plot is th...Ken- the thing about the Obama takeover plot is that Obama really isn't all that popular with people that have guns. Trying to overthrow a government with only hipsters, college profs, and welfare leeches backing you is a bit like Greece declairing war against Russia with only France as an allay. Very unlikely and bound to fail.<br />Plus, would be conquerers don't spend most of their time golfing & vacationing.Joe in PNGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-55077591944130904572012-06-23T01:18:53.161-04:002012-06-23T01:18:53.161-04:00OK then. Obama invokes executive privilege.
The n...OK then. Obama invokes executive privilege.<br /><br />The next step is to ask Holder if Obama was put in the loop at some date he earlier claimed Obama was in Sgt. Schultz mode.<br /><br />Then demand documents prior to that date.<br /><br />If Obama again claims executive privilege, use that as evidence that Holder perjured himself about Obama's involvement at that time.Kristophrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08370888276707569365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-88036963379466643482012-06-22T23:59:55.391-04:002012-06-22T23:59:55.391-04:00Tam,
As conspiracy theories go, I like this one!...Tam, <br /><br />As conspiracy theories go, I like this one! Plausible, it fits the apparent story, denigrates the President and his administration, and fits the "I got a seat for sale!" Chicago "way".Brad K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18378344866487206569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-53464099664045302612012-06-22T22:47:33.220-04:002012-06-22T22:47:33.220-04:00I doubt Holder is trying to hide evidence of Obama...I doubt Holder is trying to hide evidence of Obama's involvement because I don't think there really is any evidence, unless someone happened to videotape the rounds of winks and nods as they occurred in the Oval Office.<br /><br />And it's very useful to Obama to have Holder as a lightning rod for the Riht. <br /><br />Meanwhile the White House now gets several months in which it can disdainfully talk about partisan sniping and politically induced witch hunts/distractions, and then, if Obama does win in November, show him the door as part of a general housecleaning that goes with the start of a second term.kishnevihttp://kishnevi.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-89143860684432518332012-06-22T22:46:29.671-04:002012-06-22T22:46:29.671-04:00so why aren't his fingers slipping off the fro...<i>so why aren't his fingers slipping off the front bumper while Barry riverdances on his knuckles?</i><br /><br />That right there is why she's the Queen, folks.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11402651457453813639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-30686824785993213882012-06-22T22:19:07.632-04:002012-06-22T22:19:07.632-04:00The very simple explanation is that if Obama can d...The very simple explanation is that if Obama can drag his heels on co-operating with a suit past the election, it really won't matter to him. Most Americans are still blind to the scandal. I'm sure he'd like nothing better than an incompetent impeachment, in which his long-studied lawyers run rings around a Congress with lots of freshmen who don't know exactly how Washington works.<br /><br />Anyone who thinks Obama deserting Jeremiah Wright and Van Jones is in any way equivalent of letting his Attorney General fall to the House is waaaaaaay too invested in their picture of Obama. Presidents don't easily give up cabinet members before elections, if they can avoid it.<br /><br />Though I think it's entirely possible Holder will take a walk in the park shortly after Obama cashiers him on Jan. 22nd.trevalyannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-29093180851330111152012-06-22T21:57:33.573-04:002012-06-22T21:57:33.573-04:00Drang: Hunh, Jon Stewart did a pretty good job of ...Drang: Hunh, Jon Stewart did a pretty good job of roasting the Dems on this one. :)perlhaqrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920117742664645165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-46244067193530117032012-06-22T21:53:49.039-04:002012-06-22T21:53:49.039-04:00They should both be tried and the maximum penalty ...They should both be tried and the maximum penalty applied.<br /><br />TITLE 18, U.S.C., SECTION 242<br />Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, ... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnaping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.Oakenheartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-14251146535569118662012-06-22T21:13:45.245-04:002012-06-22T21:13:45.245-04:00Tam, you are certainly correct that those dire pre...Tam, you are certainly correct that those dire predictions have been around for a long time. I certainly did not mean to Godwin the deal, but there is a precedent for a leader, popular with the unwashed masses; offering "reform" and "progress"; taking advantage of turmoil to assume otherwise illegal power; ending in a usurpation of power. Given BHO's attitude and actions, like the amnesty bs, is it really so far fetched?Ken Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09422188798012989045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-44342296670379855522012-06-22T21:08:43.929-04:002012-06-22T21:08:43.929-04:00Jon Stewart sends up the BS flag: June 21, 2012 - ...Jon Stewart sends up the BS flag: <a href="http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/thu-june-21-2012-bassem-youssef" rel="nofollow">June 21, 2012 - Bassem Youssef - The Daily Show With Jon Stewart - Full Episode Video | Comedy Central</a><br />The first 8.5 minutes or so.Dranghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08082177597135236652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-29750654212490173142012-06-22T20:29:50.679-04:002012-06-22T20:29:50.679-04:00Hadn't thought about it in THAT light, but you...Hadn't thought about it in THAT light, but you're probably right... sighOld NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-41214850857007649912012-06-22T20:27:23.115-04:002012-06-22T20:27:23.115-04:00Maybe Holder's got Obama's real birth cert...Maybe Holder's got Obama's real birth certificate?HerrBGonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09617037969539420284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-55118313643794248002012-06-22T20:23:58.888-04:002012-06-22T20:23:58.888-04:00The DOJ doesn't have to produce a thing. The ...The DOJ doesn't have to produce a thing. The note was signed "Epstein's mother".Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03889681055577032812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-26043315216110880622012-06-22T18:38:11.007-04:002012-06-22T18:38:11.007-04:00It is possible that the dirt on Obama may be the s...It is possible that the dirt on Obama may be the smoking gun letter in Fast and Furious from Obama to Holder to run guns to Sinola cartel in order to create gun tracking statistics that would justify restricting 2nd Amendment rights.Don Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06057058763094040058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-6766827986611033382012-06-22T18:29:27.727-04:002012-06-22T18:29:27.727-04:00BHO needs Holder to slowdown the investigation int...BHO needs Holder to slowdown the investigation into the security leaks about US involvement in cyber warfare against Iran. As long as Holder has that investigation in house at the DOJ and keeps it from going to an independent special counsel Obama will continue to cover for Holder on Fast and Furious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-36924747030859463862012-06-22T17:54:10.221-04:002012-06-22T17:54:10.221-04:00I just wish we could tie the BATFE to the TSA and ...I just wish we could tie the BATFE to the TSA and push them both under Amtrak to go splat... Meanwhile the Leftmedia are now forced into their grade-school dance, stamping their feet and hollering "Nothing to See Here!" So at least they are bent to their own #Occupy task.NotClauswitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14358707844087117280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-23126808397641487122012-06-22T17:35:09.179-04:002012-06-22T17:35:09.179-04:00I'm given to understand that now that the exec...I'm given to understand that now that the executive/deliberative process privilege card is in play it will be a solid six months before anything of substance happens. Plenty of time for Teh Zero to be re-elected, the anger of the Great Unwashed to subside and the House to change hands, or so they hope.<br /><br />Regardless, this is the most entertaining example of high-level explosive incontinence I've seen since Nixon. I wouldn't doubt that Holder applied for it with at least one veiled threat.<br /><br />At least, in the words of one pundit, we now know how high F&F reached. Where's goddam WikiLeaks when you need it?Moriartynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-48339357276209533492012-06-22T17:28:37.093-04:002012-06-22T17:28:37.093-04:00I'm given to understand that now that the exec...I'm given to understand that now that the executive/deliberative process privilege card is in play it will be a solid six months before anything of substance happens. Plenty of time for Teh Won to be re-elected, the anger of the Great Unwashed to subside and the House to change hands, or so they might hope. <br /><br />Regardless, this was the most entertaining example of high-level explosive incontinence I've seen since Nixon. I wouldn't doubt for an instant that Holder applied for it with at least one veiled threat. <br /><br />At least, in the words of one pundit, we now know how high F&F reached. Where's goddam WikiLeaks when you <i>need</i> it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com