tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post4728865055116349309..comments2023-11-10T04:17:00.492-05:00Comments on View From The Porch: All The News That's...huh?Tamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-90324654143035969512007-05-20T23:31:00.000-04:002007-05-20T23:31:00.000-04:00comatus,You got that right.comatus,<BR/><BR/>You got that right.theirritablearchitecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04105315709746689270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-7170658402881930422007-05-20T11:53:00.000-04:002007-05-20T11:53:00.000-04:00b&n, Heh. We certainly must be the on-line polite ...b&n, Heh. We certainly must be the on-line polite arguers of the week, obviously because we don't disagree on much. Here's one, though: you (like I usually do) see "modern" as good, since it brings the *march* of technology, and mo'better guns. I'm getting leery. Prohibitionists, drug-banners, eugenicists (not all of them bad, mind you), racists, gun-banners, antitobacconists and global-warmers all see their causes as part of the *march of progress*, too. And they bring on "modern" social terrors undreamed of in the relatively uptight dogmas of the dusty past.comatushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07251715653788254562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-8012107949743969882007-05-18T23:46:00.000-04:002007-05-18T23:46:00.000-04:00Sorry, Comatus, but I can't see any of what we are...Sorry, Comatus, but I can't see any of what we are talking about as "modern". I've read too much about the history of civilization throughout the world to believe that what we are witnessing is something all that new.<BR/><BR/>There have been T-totalers since the first beer was brewed by the Egyptians, and there have been convicted persons spouting about this very issue since, etymology of the term "puritan" put aside, if only for the sake of argument.<BR/><BR/>What I'm <I>more</I> worried about is an increasing <I>incivilty</I> toward situations, like the posted story indicates, by the cops and powers-that-be. This is one more instance that is adding another piece of straw to the desert walking, water-bearing quadruped, if you take my meaning.<BR/><BR/>This sled is going nowhere except straight to Hell.theirritablearchitecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04105315709746689270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-64208171707535566772007-05-18T22:16:00.000-04:002007-05-18T22:16:00.000-04:00b&n, appreciating your civility, Temperance was in...b&n, appreciating your civility, Temperance was indeed kooky by our standards, but got nowhere (at the national level, anyway) until it morphed into the first organized, businesslike PR/lobbying effort. Someday it will become safe to reveal just how much like it the anti-smoking campaign has been; my point is that we are unfair to the puritans, who were not nearly as "puritan" as we imagine them. Incredibly, this was once true of baptists, as well! I think we're going to have to get together and blame...Transcendentalists. "The Feminization of American Culture" by Ann Douglas (1978) takes a hard look at the birth of "liberal causes" in clergy rendered redundant by disestablishment. Bible-thumpers, well yeah, but definitely not puritans. Modern.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-12312671835785451362007-05-18T18:00:00.000-04:002007-05-18T18:00:00.000-04:00comatus,I beg to differ.I am not suggesting that w...comatus,<BR/><BR/>I beg to differ.<BR/><BR/>I am not suggesting that what you are saying is incorrect, merely that the Temperence Movement was indeed founded by a bunch of Bible-thumping idiots who swore that liqour consumption was evil.<BR/><BR/>There have been these types since, and even before, the founding of this country, and there will continue to be these types. Fortunately, they aren't very vocal, now, and hold very little sway in making law, though it is becoming hard to make a distinction like <I>that</I> considering the post topic.theirritablearchitecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04105315709746689270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-56606722075978358872007-05-18T16:58:00.000-04:002007-05-18T16:58:00.000-04:00b&n, the Puritans drank like fish. It would never ...b&n, the Puritans drank like fish. It would never have occurred to them to ban one of God's gifts. It took Modern Man to do that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-11195369586330684842007-05-18T11:39:00.000-04:002007-05-18T11:39:00.000-04:00Yup. It's getting way too authoritarian in this co...Yup. It's getting <I>way</I> too authoritarian in this country, legalities be damned.<BR/><BR/>It was <I>alcohol</I>, fer chrissakes, not a virgin sacrifice, though the puritanism that this country was founded upon should serve as a reminder of this country's roots. We did ban alcohol for what, 13 years, afterall.theirritablearchitecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04105315709746689270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-56512617494602041012007-05-18T07:48:00.000-04:002007-05-18T07:48:00.000-04:00Drinking is part of our culture, and you have to g...Drinking is part of our culture, and you have to get acculturated somehow. Prom parties would not be my first choice, but if the young never get a taste of (and look at) enjoyment, moderation, and excess, what do we expect to happen when they 'cut loose' at 21, or 35?<BR/><BR/>Reminds me of the old rifle coach's line: "Ma'am, do you want your kid to learn about guns from me, or in the backseat of a car?"<BR/><BR/>Yeah, I know. That line doesn't work for sex. But in principle...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-32292148835540441342007-05-18T02:07:00.000-04:002007-05-18T02:07:00.000-04:00"The vomiting girl was accompanied by her prom dat..."The vomiting girl was accompanied by her prom date, the deputy said."<BR/><BR/>Tip to the puking girl: if he holds your hair up for you, it's true love! <BR/><BR/>They (heart) cool grownups who get them likkered up. That's right - it's not news, is it?phlegmfatalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08636803080525003892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-56374702491382763272007-05-17T21:35:00.000-04:002007-05-17T21:35:00.000-04:00When my son was 16, he came home from what we knew...When my son was 16, he came home from what we knew was an unsupervised teen party sober and frustrated. Getting drunk wasn't important enough to him to settle for Boone's Farm and Old Milwaukee.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-8097487566905398882007-05-17T21:07:00.000-04:002007-05-17T21:07:00.000-04:00Their 2nd mistake was to let the cops conduct a se...Their 2nd mistake was to let the cops conduct a search without getting a warrant first.<BR/><BR/>Their 1st error was to host that party.<BR/><BR/>As for ambulance driver's rules, mine were similar.<BR/><BR/>I could do anything I wanted as long as it was:<BR/><BR/>1. Legal<BR/>2. Moral<BR/>#. Didn't get on my Mother's nerves...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-65697943298919179752007-05-17T21:00:00.000-04:002007-05-17T21:00:00.000-04:00News must be slow there to even bother with someth...News must be slow there to even bother with something like that.BobGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405172215849046373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-55433871019110458552007-05-17T18:46:00.000-04:002007-05-17T18:46:00.000-04:00Don't forget that you can have beer and wine at 14...Don't forget that you can have beer and wine at 14 if you're accompanied by an adult guardian.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05796690368588471378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-87773888740718561032007-05-17T15:34:00.000-04:002007-05-17T15:34:00.000-04:00This is even more ridiculous for someone in German...This is even more ridiculous for someone in Germany. Legal age for beer and wine is 16, for liquor it's 18.T.Stahlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05351094909296928284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-80352076502702687282007-05-17T14:37:00.000-04:002007-05-17T14:37:00.000-04:00Call me a libertine, but I'd much rather have the ...Call me a libertine, but I'd much rather have the kids drinking at one place where the car keys are secured than running the roads. As long as their parents gave their kids approval, and were ostensibly aware that alcohol would likely be consumed, what's the problem?<BR/><BR/>I had three running rules when I was a teenager:<BR/><BR/>1. Don't drink and drive, or ride with anyone who has been drinking.<BR/><BR/>2. Be home by midnight on school nights, 1 am on weekends, or there would be hell to pay.<BR/><BR/>3. Don't get anyone pregnant.<BR/><BR/>With guidelines that loose, I was FAR more well-behaved than my friends.Ambulance Driverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10175419709184526342noreply@blogger.com