tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post547699875431892126..comments2023-11-10T04:17:00.492-05:00Comments on View From The Porch: While, yes, it is technically a shotgun...Tamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-2065488362667079822011-11-22T12:56:12.873-05:002011-11-22T12:56:12.873-05:00Having spent a considerable amount of time pattern...Having spent a considerable amount of time patterning .410 loads now; the best patterns I've gotten have been with Winchester's old fashioned 000 buck loads.<br /><br />The patterns I've seen out of Judge pistols were just a joke; but out of an 18 inch shotgun I've been surprised at how well the various .410 rounds hold a target.Calebhttp://gunnuts.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-6345848670927983142011-11-22T09:31:20.601-05:002011-11-22T09:31:20.601-05:00SoupOrMan, They do make a 1/2oz slug doing 1250-13...SoupOrMan, They do make a 1/2oz slug doing 1250-1350fps. They call it a 41RM.Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11104354213415140413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-1104199703904658842011-11-21T17:21:18.961-05:002011-11-21T17:21:18.961-05:00So plainly they're best off in a .410 Saiga wi...So plainly they're best off in a .410 Saiga with a custom 50 round drum*?<br /><br />(*I... might not be able to resist buying that, if it existed. <br /><br />I won't pretend it's <i>sensible</i>, though.)Sigivaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16152366541957466049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-43915111137992233942011-11-20T11:51:13.301-05:002011-11-20T11:51:13.301-05:00There is certainly one place where the Judge with ...There is certainly one place where the Judge with PDX rounds would be a decent home defense choice: The other side of the wall in your hallway is your neighbor's bedroom.<br /><br />Michael Bane said something to the effect of "Anybody want to volunteer to stand in front of a PDX round to the face to prove what a bad choice it is?"eeyorenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-30932868847697869092011-11-20T10:27:03.264-05:002011-11-20T10:27:03.264-05:00It's things like this that make me wonder why ...It's things like this that make me wonder why the cartridge companies didn't just make a 2.5" shell for the .410 with a double-weight slug. Instead of the 1/4 and 1/5 ounce slugs, how about a nice 1/2 ounce slug at 1250-1350 fps? That would be good enough for my old Iver-Johnson .410 and the companies could still market them as "defense loads."<br /><br />wv: habom. Habib with his semtex underoos and matching vest.SoupOrManhttp://www.theguncounter.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-47143670615597040282011-11-20T05:54:38.287-05:002011-11-20T05:54:38.287-05:00Well when you shoot buckshot out of the judge the ...Well when you shoot buckshot out of the judge the shot balls actually hit each other with such force they flatten themselves. I saw that on box o truth.Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-74862536582624496642011-11-20T05:46:27.153-05:002011-11-20T05:46:27.153-05:00I figure the Judge is just a slightly more bulky ....I figure the Judge is just a slightly more bulky .45 Colt.<br /><br />Just as once upon a time I reloaded .45 ACP from cut down .308 Winchester brass (building up slowly from very low levels) one might consider reloading some cut down .307 Winchester rimmed brass, to get some high strength .45 Colt +P...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-41372352239235911572011-11-20T01:15:42.912-05:002011-11-20T01:15:42.912-05:00Might be good on Werewolves if the dimes were pre-...Might be good on Werewolves if the dimes were pre-65Justthisguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17277333206171756636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-84550294543017229022011-11-19T22:32:09.448-05:002011-11-19T22:32:09.448-05:00So... it's a factory dime load?So... it's a factory dime load?perlhaqrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920117742664645165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-26809207644952421222011-11-19T18:33:25.953-05:002011-11-19T18:33:25.953-05:00I'm waiting for someone either foolhardy or wi...I'm waiting for someone either foolhardy or with a big wallet and a long string to try shooting .410 "cut shells" through a judge/raging judge/copy of a taurus<br /><br />(not that I think it will magically top a .45 Colt as a defensive round, not to mention the potential to lock the cylinder if you try holstering a revolver with a cut shell)Standard Mischiefhttp://standardmischief.com/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-728926767253100122011-11-19T17:20:40.682-05:002011-11-19T17:20:40.682-05:00re: The B-o-T test:
"There were bbs in the 1...<i>re: The B-o-T test:<br /><br />"There were bbs in the 1st and 2nd jugs, and the discs were in the 2nd and 3rd jug, for a maximum penetration of 6 to 9 inches."</i><br /><br />Later on in that same test, the BoT put PDX in a 28" barreled .410, with results of 12 to 15 inches of equivalent penetration, including a double layer of denim in front. <br /><br />http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot53_4.htm<br /><br />The PDX (and other .410 rounds) might just prove to be enough.ExurbanKevinhttp://www.exurbanleague.com/misfiresnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-21716829432253663342011-11-19T17:05:33.056-05:002011-11-19T17:05:33.056-05:00Tam: Yep, sooper-seekrit Extreme Special Warrior a...Tam: Yep, sooper-seekrit Extreme Special Warrior ammunition using "blended metal" technology for the .410 revolvers, coming in 5, 4, 3, 2, ...<br /><br />Made of 100% Failite... [eyeroll]Mike Doylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11644313489266335793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-58649235779920724742011-11-19T16:52:13.258-05:002011-11-19T16:52:13.258-05:00How'd a block of jello get in your pajamas, Ge...How'd a block of jello get in your pajamas, Gewehr98?<br /><br />Wait. On second thought, I don't want to know...Jacnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-34758860298442014332011-11-19T16:39:43.875-05:002011-11-19T16:39:43.875-05:00@ Bubblehead Les.
The circuit judge excels at on...@ Bubblehead Les. <br /><br />The circuit judge excels at one thing: clay shooting. Nothing, and I mean nothing, points as well as it does. Virtually all the weight is behind the foregrip and the thing just snaps to your shoulder. My friends have decided that using that plus a RDS on top is officially cheating. I am really looking forward to taking it out for quail. . .Lucuslocnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-22313655021223852722011-11-19T15:48:51.049-05:002011-11-19T15:48:51.049-05:00I shot a block of Jell-O in my pajamas one night.....I shot a block of Jell-O in my pajamas one night...Gewehr98https://www.blogger.com/profile/14440119702457734221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-87963820752740018332011-11-19T15:27:41.786-05:002011-11-19T15:27:41.786-05:00Stranger,
"Given the fact that 20% ballistic...Stranger,<br /><br />"<i>Given the fact that 20% ballistic gel is a good match for muscle, 8" in gel is not bad at all.</i>"<br /><br />I used to think that way, but as it turns out, it doesn't work that way at all.<br /><br />Jello is a good-<i>ish</i> match for undifferentiated muscle tissue, which is not what people are made of. As it turns out, the FBI's insistence on 12"-14" in homogeneous clothed jello equates well to adequate penetration in un-homogeneous humans who might be turned at all manner of bizarre angles when you shoot them.<br /><br />A round that only does 6" in jello might not make it the three or four inches to the ticker in a real, live goblin.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-23007258115164173592011-11-19T14:43:36.268-05:002011-11-19T14:43:36.268-05:00More musing:
Honestly if you're doing that so...More musing:<br /><br />Honestly if you're doing that sort of thing, you might just be better off getting a working replica of a large bore single shot blackpowder pistol, and making your own shotgun load wad(not shell, muzzle loader) to load it with. I'm pretty sure that'd be legal(and heck, I think it'd fall into a legal loophole where you don't need a licence for it either).Mikaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04894602732468692375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-59532531800611656292011-11-19T14:41:15.665-05:002011-11-19T14:41:15.665-05:00Here is a video i shot of some load testing from m...Here is a video i shot of some load testing from my Taurus Public Defender Polymer<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GNXqaKLuNg<br /><br />DaveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-31835145708178373682011-11-19T14:39:18.462-05:002011-11-19T14:39:18.462-05:00I did some idle research into what it would take t...I did some idle research into what it would take to make a propriatary cartridge for a two-shot over/under pistol, that could also take 16 gauge... closest match for a case to base it on was the .700 nitro express(which would be cut shorter), but I think it'd fall foul of the destructive device law, and it's not a perfect match anyway.<br /><br />Likewise with 20 gauge, and .600 nitro express.Mikaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04894602732468692375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-13974852257483714972011-11-19T13:44:28.974-05:002011-11-19T13:44:28.974-05:00Hehe. The Judge is a gateway gun. I'm gonna si...Hehe. The Judge is a gateway gun. I'm gonna sit here and giggle for a little while longer.jetazhttp://gunsmithingandpolitics.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-12919912261561177182011-11-19T12:36:15.629-05:002011-11-19T12:36:15.629-05:00You're right on all counts Tam but taken with ...You're right on all counts Tam but taken with your earlier post about the state of gun rights in general I got all warm and fuzzy feeling about this. Yeah it's a Taurus Judge (though it seems to be a gateway firearm) but the very fact that we're questioning some folks' sanity in choosing it over a high capacity handgun with such sanguinity just makes me smile. It's going to be a good day!Sixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05572583408046642437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-28200836199360814522011-11-19T12:26:14.826-05:002011-11-19T12:26:14.826-05:00Well - I wear a 46" coat when my weight is do...Well - I wear a 46" coat when my weight is down, and I can slip into a 13" space sideways with an inch or so of clearance. <br /><br />Given the fact that 20% ballistic gel is a good match for muscle, 8" in gel is not bad at all. A heart or lung hit with the .410 would probably stop in back muscles. An abdominal shot would probably be terribly destructive, and give nearly full penetration, as well. <br /><br />We will see what we shall see when the self defense reports start coming in - but while I am not about to buy a Judge, I would much rather have a .410 handgun than a .25. <br /><br />StrangerStrangerhttp://extranosalley.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-75650069098835777422011-11-19T12:10:02.945-05:002011-11-19T12:10:02.945-05:00Do they make these in zombie rounds?Do they make these in zombie rounds?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-69390677765533626942011-11-19T11:40:38.882-05:002011-11-19T11:40:38.882-05:00Bubblehead Les,
"28 Gauge"
I have no e...Bubblehead Les,<br /><br />"<i>28 Gauge</i>"<br /><br />I have no earthly idea what I'd use it for, but the idea of one of those revolving carbines in 28ga appeals to me. I can think of no practical purpose for which there aren't a dozen better firearms, but still... dude, it looks cool. :oTamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-70474712753262038002011-11-19T11:25:48.965-05:002011-11-19T11:25:48.965-05:00OMG! Just went over to Taurus' subdivision of...OMG! Just went over to Taurus' subdivision of Rossi, looking for some Snark Fodder, and you should see what they've done to the "Circuit Judge" Carbine version! Besides .410/.45 Long Colt, it now comes in .22 LR/.22Mag, .44 Mag, 28 Gauge, and there's a TACTICAL VERSION!<br /><br />Even P.T. Barnum would be dumbfounded!Bubblehead Les.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00730873284089958084noreply@blogger.com