tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post6368851406567127881..comments2023-11-10T04:17:00.492-05:00Comments on View From The Porch: QotD: It's A Twister, Auntie Em! Edition.Tamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comBlogger81125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-80262277051582540782011-05-27T15:11:13.235-04:002011-05-27T15:11:13.235-04:00Hey MisterSecurityGuard,
It just dawned on me tha...Hey MisterSecurityGuard,<br /><br />It just dawned on me that I need to ask you one last question; What brought down the World Trade Center towers?theirritablearchitecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04105315709746689270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-67222392994209908922011-05-27T12:54:24.778-04:002011-05-27T12:54:24.778-04:00You were talking about running calculations and sq...You were talking about running calculations and square footage costs earlier (I started laughing)...where are these?<br /><br />How do you know your are making correct assumptions?<br /><br />Did you vet any of your answers or conclusions?<br /><br />Do you have any training on this subject, formally or informally?<br /><br />I'm sitting here, looking at you with an overwhelming amount of suspicion, Joshie, and just about everything you've spouted has done nothing more than dig your hole deeper.theirritablearchitecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04105315709746689270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-1657509529496488202011-05-27T12:45:43.615-04:002011-05-27T12:45:43.615-04:00So sayes theirritablearchitect, I bow down before ...So sayes theirritablearchitect, I bow down before him and ask his humble forgiveness. <br /><br />Sorry one last jab. <br /><br />My actual reply is on your blog. <br /><br />Josh (No more post on this bog on this subject.)Josh Kruschkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288700371539530398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-61496820031939271312011-05-27T12:03:55.986-04:002011-05-27T12:03:55.986-04:00Joshie,
Here's the difference; I know what I&...Joshie,<br /><br />Here's the difference; I know what I'm talking about and you don't, and probably never will.theirritablearchitecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04105315709746689270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-85979883587460339122011-05-27T11:48:48.083-04:002011-05-27T11:48:48.083-04:00Mr. Architect -
The same goes for you.
JoshMr. Architect - <br /><br />The same goes for you. <br /><br />JoshJosh Kruschkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288700371539530398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-66825060542418358652011-05-27T11:39:19.478-04:002011-05-27T11:39:19.478-04:00Mr.Babysitter (seriously, that's what you cons...Mr.Babysitter (seriously, that's what you consider yourself?),<br /><br />I'll take you seriously when you show some evidence that you know what you are talking about.theirritablearchitecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04105315709746689270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-39435055645555472982011-05-27T11:27:40.890-04:002011-05-27T11:27:40.890-04:00Sorry, DJ - my declared win was sarcasm directed a...Sorry, DJ - my declared win was sarcasm directed at mr. Architect. <br />Not you. <br /><br />JoshJosh Kruschkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288700371539530398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-61517892377453935182011-05-27T11:18:30.706-04:002011-05-27T11:18:30.706-04:00DJ - yes well reasoned.
:-)
Their is an assumpti...DJ - yes well reasoned.<br /><br />:-)<br /><br />Their is an assumption in all that that I don't live in tornado alley, I'm assuming it's because I don't agree with you. I grew up in West Texas and have seen a few my self.<br /><br />On to excuse, what you gave is one valid definition of the word, it also means to justify an action. To give a reason why you did or did not do something. It doesn't have to mean an omission of guilt, and that was where the confusion came in. Sorry again. <br /><br />http://m.dictionary.com/d/?q=Excuse&submit-result-SEARCHD=Search<br /><br />theirritable(as in bowels? Are you having tummy problems?)architect - <br /><br />Name calling, really. Ok, you're just a big dummy dumb poo poo head. Ok, I guess we're in the second grade now? Sorry if my englash is not to good. I've been studying it and practicing it for 20 some years. You think I would be better at it. <br /><br />:-)<br />JoshJosh Kruschkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288700371539530398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-55341337313899646102011-05-27T10:50:37.357-04:002011-05-27T10:50:37.357-04:00"Ya, I win by default."
No, Joshkie, yo...<i>"Ya, I win by default."</i><br /><br />No, Joshkie, you don't win by default. We have responded; we have not defaulted.<br /><br /><i>"Mostly what I did was state my opinion, ask why it can't be done my way."</i><br /><br />I responded that it could, but it won't, and I explained why it won't.<br /><br />Your thesis is that it should, and when I stated:<br /><br /><i>"If YOU think it should be done, then it's up to YOU to tell us why."</i><br /><br />... you declined to do so. You stated:<br /><br /><i>"As to my <b>not giving 'whys.'</b>"</i> [emphasis added]<br /><br />... and then stated:<br /><br /><i>"I rest my case"</i><br /><br />And you claim a win <i><b>by default?</b></i><br /><br />Damn, dude, you ought to run for Congress. You'd fit right in.DJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-23702488567911877902011-05-27T09:45:59.240-04:002011-05-27T09:45:59.240-04:00Hah! That finally did it.Hah! That finally did it.DJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-73252563303014760532011-05-27T09:45:06.856-04:002011-05-27T09:45:06.856-04:00Part 1 b
"Are you planning on staying with t...<b>Part 1 b</b><br /><br /><i>"Are you planning on staying with the red cross or with family and friends."</i><br /><br />With my extended family, who all live in this area.<br /><br /><i>"Even if you stay with family and friends it will be a burden on them."</i><br /><br />It is a burden that is cheerfully born. We're like that here. My extended family has <i><b>BEEN THERE, DONE THAT.</b></i><br /><br />This is Oklahoma, not New York, not Chicago, and not L.A. If you don't live here, then I doubt you'll understand.<br /><br /><i>"Do you know how much the state or Fed will pay to clean up the mess?"</i><br /><br />Whatever it costs. Been there, seen that. It is what FEMA is for. They did a fabulous job here in 1999.<br /><br /><i>"Do you worry about putting the rescue workers in danger if the have to pull you out of you shelter/basement? (all come from tax dollares that could be going to pay down dept)"</i><br /><br />No. I don't expect to be injured, just as people who took shelter as I did and were hit by the tornado a few days ago were not injured. I am fully prepared to stay put in my cellar for days if needed. Further, local rescue organizations such as fire departments have lists of where storm cellars are, and so they know where to look. Point is, we would not be in a hurry, therefore there is no need for danger to rescuers.<br /><br /><i>"If you lost your house would I see you on the news crying about the tragedy of losing your house, and that I need to give to the red cross to help all though effected."</i><br /><br />No, I would decline to be interviewed. I am a very private person.DJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-14428714152326733102011-05-27T09:44:18.118-04:002011-05-27T09:44:18.118-04:00Part 1 a
"I never asked you to apoligize for...<b>Part 1 a</b><br /><br /><i>"I never asked you to apoligize for anything."</i><br /><br />No, you didn't. Read on.<br /><br /><i>"An excuse is any stated reason for not doing some thing justifed or not."</i><br /><br />I'll quote from <i>The Free Dictionary</i> online, which is whose definition I used:<br /><br />ex·cuse<br /><br />tr.v.<br /><br />1.<br />a. To explain (a fault or an offense) in the hope of being forgiven or understood<br /><br />b. To apologize for (oneself) for an act that could cause offense<br /><br />n.<br /><br />1. An explanation offered to justify or obtain forgiveness.<br /><br />Now, apply that to your statement:<br /><br /><i>"So, Your excuses are:<br />1. Low probability of it happening to you, so you're willing to gamble with your families life."</i><br /><br />Hence the notion of me apologizing for putting my family at risk. I haven't done so, and so I have no need to apologize for it. Now do you get it?<br /><br /><i>"Do you have an emergency fund for food an living expenses?"</i><br /><br />I have been retired for ten years. I live on the income my investment portfolio produces. A tornado would not affect that.<br /><br /><i>"Do you know how long the adverage pay out takes?"</i><br /><br />It depends on the insurance company. Members of my extended family have experienced two house fires, one flood, and two tornados. In each case, the initial payout was a considerable sum to survive the initial aftermath, and it required less than 24 hours. Other payouts came later, when an initial assessment was made of the loss, which takes a few weeks. The final payout came when long, detailed lists of personal property that was lost were compiled and filed. The policies covered <i>actual replacement costs</i> for such, and a year was allowed to compile such a list.<br /><br />I used a digital camera to compile a CD full of thousands of detailed photos of EVERYTHING I own, organized in folders by rooms, so that I can compile such a list easily. A copy is in my safe, which I believe will withstand a tornado hit, and another is in my brother's safe, which is four miles away.DJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-76895186951849210522011-05-27T09:43:30.292-04:002011-05-27T09:43:30.292-04:00Too = As well, also or Many/Much
To = preposition...Too = As well, also or Many/Much<br /><br />To = preposition<br /><br />Is that clear enough for you, Joshie?theirritablearchitecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04105315709746689270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-46122846921259820112011-05-27T09:42:28.568-04:002011-05-27T09:42:28.568-04:00Joshke, have patience, please. I've posted a t...Joshke, have patience, please. I've posted a two part response three times, and only the second part appears. I'll keep trying.DJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-37782648501523645792011-05-27T09:42:01.183-04:002011-05-27T09:42:01.183-04:00Sometimes the monkey dance is just TOO damn fun.
...Sometimes the monkey dance is just <em>TOO</em> damn fun.<br /><br />Get it the fuck right, you knuckle-dragger! Learn the fucking language.<br /><br />Oh, and Joshie, you've not won anything, simply by proclaiming such.<br /><br />Piss off, shithead.theirritablearchitecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04105315709746689270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-79295253173597807012011-05-27T09:40:51.611-04:002011-05-27T09:40:51.611-04:00Part 2
"Yes, I'm a cold hearted basterd....<b>Part 2</b><br /><br /><i>"Yes, I'm a cold hearted basterd. I don't have a problem helping someone if I think they did all they could for themselves."</i><br /><br />Yes, you are a cold-hearted bastard. Apparently you wouldn't help someone <i><b>who saved his family</b></i> but didn't do so in your preferred manner. I had no idea you were so special.<br /><br />Here, we help each other. We're like that.<br /><br /><i>"Your and others actions and in actions have consequences and costs, and sometimes they don't just effect you. I do hope you don't have face them."</i><br /><br />Of course they do. <i><b>Everything</b></i> about living involves a tradeoff. I believe I have made a very good tradeoff in this matter, and I can face anyone who thinks otherwise. Even you.<br /><br /><i>"The first thing I post was this, "Maybe we should build smarter, to reduce the likelihood of needing a bug out bag." There's an implied 'why' in that."</i><br /><br />There is an implied <i><b>tradeoff</b></i> in that. Before you suggest making houses stronger to resist tornado damage, perhaps you should come and see <b><i>in person, up close and personal,</i></b> just what tornados can do. You might form a different opinion about what it would take to make a house safe in a tornado. I have no such illusions.<br /><br /><i>"Then later I said this, "Spending more upfront can usually be recouped or even save you money in the long run."<br /><br />"I even gave a book list so you and other could look into it for yourselves."</i><br /><br />I looked into it long ago. It was part of deciding whether to build or buy. Buying and adding a storm cellar was the result.<br /><br /><i>"Murphy an O'Tool Laws. Why do people put so much faith in a system working as advertised."</i><br /><br />My system worked as designed. I'm an engineer, and what I do generally does.<br /><br /><i>"I feel that the money spent on clean up and recover could be better spent on paying down aour national and state depts."</i><br /><br />Natural disasters happen. Are you suggesting the mess they cause should not be cleaned up?<br /><br /><i>"The wasted resources to replace and rebuild your house and stuff is unnesessary."</i><br /><br />Yup, you really are suggesting that. Dude, "cold-hearted bastard" doesn't even come close, and you pinned the label on yourself. Stay away; we don't need you here.<br /><br /><i>"The cost is realy not that prohibitive ..."</i><br /><br />Ah, the magic numbers out the arse method. I know it well.<br /><br />Again, come and see <b><i>in person, up close and personal,</i></b> just what tornados can do, even to very strongly built buildings, and tell me the cost is small to make it work.<br /><br />Have you ever seen a tornado throw a bulldozer through the air? I haven't, but I've seen the result. I have no desire to pay for, or live in, a building which can withstand such a tornado.<br /><br /><i>"Do you know how long it will take to rebuild your house after pay out?"</i><br /><br />Here, it takes about three to four months to build a fine house. You should have seen how fast THOUSANDS of houses were rebuilt after the May 3, 1999 outbreak.<br /><br /><i>"I rest my case"</i><br /><br />You've made no case, in my unhumble opinion. Yet again, come and see <b><i>in person, up close and personal,</i></b> just what tornados can do, even to very strongly built buildings, and you'll understand why I state that.DJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-58584481917292124162011-05-27T09:12:24.608-04:002011-05-27T09:12:24.608-04:00Tam -
I know I said I wasn't going to do wha...Tam - <br /><br />I know I said I wasn't going to do what did anyways. Sometimes the monkey dance is just to damn fun. Even when the shit starts to fly. <br /><br />Sigh...<br />JoshJosh Kruschkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288700371539530398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-34483581144019390882011-05-27T09:04:01.842-04:002011-05-27T09:04:01.842-04:00Ya, I win by default. Which is a good thing cause ...Ya, I win by default. Which is a good thing cause he say he was just about to refutiate "just about ALL what I was trying to prove." <br /><br />Mostly what I did was state my opinion, ask why it can't be done my way. The only thing he's come up with is , It's to expensive which is a road block. Not an insurmountable obstacle. <br /><br />He typed all in caps so obviously I was going to be in big trouble, so I guess I escaped by the skin of my teeth. <br /><br />:-)<br />JoshJosh Kruschkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288700371539530398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-49708009817250562212011-05-27T08:07:24.739-04:002011-05-27T08:07:24.739-04:00No one so blind as thinks they see but doesn't...No one so blind as thinks they see but doesn't.Josh Kruschkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288700371539530398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-2282163724708020712011-05-27T07:35:13.218-04:002011-05-27T07:35:13.218-04:00Gee, I step away to, ya know, work, and look what ...Gee, I step away to, ya know, work, and look what happens.<br /><br />Joshie is still sticking his fingers in his ears on this, I see.<br /><br />Oh well, no one so blind as someone who refuses to see, I suppose. I'd write something to completed refute just about ALL of what he's trying to prove, but it's a lost cause.<br /><br />Oh, and DJ, nice form.theirritablearchitecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04105315709746689270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-22198009143625029322011-05-27T00:54:48.620-04:002011-05-27T00:54:48.620-04:00Kristopher,
:DKristopher,<br /><br />:DTamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-76052123736028834852011-05-27T00:46:57.300-04:002011-05-27T00:46:57.300-04:00Discobobbie: You are overthinking it. Dig a hole w...Discobobbie: You are overthinking it. Dig a hole with a backhoe. Drop an old small shipping container in it. Build a staircase down with cinderblocks and bury it.<br /><br /><br />Tam: We don't sleep in that basement ... we just have sex there. That is a rumpusroom, not a bedroom. Prove that we sleep there.Kristophrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08370888276707569365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-62133587515852821542011-05-26T22:57:50.580-04:002011-05-26T22:57:50.580-04:00Tam, if I've double posted my latest comments ...Tam, if I've double posted my latest comments (they didn't appear the first time), then I apologize. It's late, and I'm tired, and I forgot that Blogger sometimes does that.<br /><br />Mea culpa.DJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-88618074807562973172011-05-26T22:53:13.421-04:002011-05-26T22:53:13.421-04:00"If my best option to ride out a EF4/5 tornad...<i>"If my best option to ride out a EF4/5 tornado was a closet under the stairs I would prefer to be in a house sided with brick, not vinyl (the latter often look like a bomb was detonated within)"</i><br /><br />Bill, it depends on the strength of the tornado. For F3 tornados and higher, it would make no difference.<br /><br />See if you can find photos of the obliterated houses near Piedmont, OK, in the storm that happened two days ago here. Their typical construction is wood frame with brick veneer clear to the eaves, and they look like they were filled with natural gas and detonated. They were hit by an F3 tornado.<br /><br />Go here and see the descriptions of how the strength of a tornado is deduced from the damage it causes:<br /><br />http://www.tornadoproject.com/fscale/fscale.htm<br /><br />Note the description of an F5:<br /><br /><i>"Strong frame houses lifted off foundations and carried considerable distances to disintegrate; automobile sized missiles fly through the air in excess of 100 meters; trees debarked; steel re-inforced concrete structures badly damaged."</i><br /><br />Back on May 3, 1999, winds were clocked by doppler radar at 318 mph about a half mile down the path of the F5 that ate my brother's house. I've seen videos where tornados have stripped the asphalt off the surface of a road.<br /><br />If you are seriously considering the matter, I suggest a prefab concrete storm cellar. A crew of three people installed one in our back yard in two hours flat, timed from their arrival to driving away with my check. It cost me $2,055.00, complete. These things have been saving people's lives here for over a hundred years.DJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-85516099038688607982011-05-26T20:46:40.723-04:002011-05-26T20:46:40.723-04:00What I found interesting is how much more of the s...What I found interesting is how much more of the structure remained intact if the siding was masonry instead of vinyl. <br /><br />If my best option to ride out a EF4/5 tornado was a closet under the stairs I would prefer to be in a house sided with brick, not vinyl (the latter often look like a bomb was detonated within)Bill in NChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13183010395531193508noreply@blogger.com