tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post8711590152047428698..comments2023-11-10T04:17:00.492-05:00Comments on View From The Porch: Something I've never really grokked...Tamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-29482521135898175292009-11-30T10:24:54.484-05:002009-11-30T10:24:54.484-05:00I have more trouble field stripping my Tokarev TT3...I have more trouble field stripping my Tokarev TT33 than I do my 1911A1. My fingers just aren't that small to depress the recoil spring plunger on the Tok. My meaty thumbs can push the plug on my 1991A1 no problemo. Maybe someone was expecting a Walther PP or PPK?Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15796886431754694105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-69792115817126525302009-11-27T06:03:26.325-05:002009-11-27T06:03:26.325-05:00There's a prayer talking about making departur...There's a prayer talking about making departures from JMB's (PBUH) Holy design, and that applies to FLGRs.<br /><br />I was lucky, I guess, a nice man in a campaign hat explained how to strip an M1911A1 and he assured me that he would forcibly remove my complete head and defecate into the the resultant stump if I failed to learn how.<br /><br />Since then I have not complained that the 1911 is too complicated, but rather marveled at how <b>SIMPLE</b> other autos are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-9570425879303093262009-11-26T07:38:03.938-05:002009-11-26T07:38:03.938-05:00"Still trying to figure out the intense hatre..."<i>Still trying to figure out the intense hatred for FLGRs.</i>"<br /><br />Like hood ornaments or continental kits, they don't actually <i><b>do</b></i> anything, and therefore offend my mechanical sensibilities.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-57406516990188802952009-11-25T21:28:10.835-05:002009-11-25T21:28:10.835-05:00Still trying to figure out the intense hatred for ...Still trying to figure out the intense hatred for FLGRs. I have had 'em in all my 1911 variants over the last 18 or so years and thousands of rounds, never gave me a lick of trouble, be it IPSC, USPSA, IDPA, or CCW. My 3.5" Caspian Officer's ACP definitely appreciates the assist to that little overworked recoil spring.<br /><br />Now, sacrificial Shok Bufs in the 1911 are a different beast...Gewehr98https://www.blogger.com/profile/14440119702457734221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-78794228811550207662009-11-25T20:03:53.296-05:002009-11-25T20:03:53.296-05:00The 1911 in pure form is fun to take apart and put...The 1911 in pure form is fun to take apart and put back together, though to do have to take care not to lose any of the tiny parts. Most decent centerfire handguns are that way.<br /><br /> But not all of them.<br /><br /> The semiautomatic that annoys me is the Tokarev TT33, kind of a JMB-generic almost-clone. The recoil spring is long and crams up into a wriggly spiral. The whole thing is just unfriendly and awkward to field-strip and reassemble. It isn't that it is difficult, it's just a PITA.Roberta Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09956807794520627885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-5869661513366095982009-11-25T18:35:25.416-05:002009-11-25T18:35:25.416-05:001911 is a fun pistol to field and detail strip..t...1911 is a fun pistol to field and detail strip..the zen of JMB is with you as you fly through the steps.<br /><br /><br />The zen of Bill Ruger is also delightful once you master the less intuitive, but beautiful MKII. The Mark III, however is a POS that rejects zen and embraces Eric Holder.hpcc19https://www.blogger.com/profile/03078521634748014482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-68562306480116366242009-11-25T13:49:08.683-05:002009-11-25T13:49:08.683-05:00Never thought field-stripping a 1911 was difficult...Never thought field-stripping a 1911 was difficult or complicated in the least, and my custom Wilson has a 22 lb. spring with a two-piece full-length guide rod.<br /><br />But then I once pulled the carburetor off my 1966 Dodge Charger and rebuilt it on the folding table while waiting for a load of horse blankets to finish up at the laundromat.Hecatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10334937938185561628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-69291304396002907572009-11-25T12:17:25.242-05:002009-11-25T12:17:25.242-05:00Okay, from a low-end user's POV:
I've own...Okay, from a low-end user's POV:<br /><br />I've owned Glocks (17 and 19), and I currently own two 1911s (GI and Compact RIAs). The Glocks were easier to field-strip, but I don't think (again, from my limited perspective) that the 1911s are 'hard' - at least, not any more. They were at first; 'bushing turns this way, not that way', 'how does that takedown pin go in again?', 'whoops, there goes the firing pin and spring...again...'.<br /><br />Again, to me - the casual user - the Glock field-strip felt more 'elegant', but I might be confusing that with 'simple'.<br /><br />wv: 'sumeuser' - the intarwebz equivalent of 'sumdood'?Noah Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-6324189791181204802009-11-25T10:42:43.085-05:002009-11-25T10:42:43.085-05:00Our game in high school ROTC was competition to se...Our game in high school ROTC was competition to see how fast we could field-strip and re-assemble a 1911--blindfolded.<br /><br />No big deal. Same game with a Garand, as well.<br /><br />Most of us got down to around a minute or not much more.<br /><br />ArtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-21221712866911199812009-11-25T09:53:18.404-05:002009-11-25T09:53:18.404-05:00Actually, the ILS had another good feature: It mad...Actually, the ILS had another good feature: It made Springfield go back to metal mainspring housings, instead of the cheap plastic units like Kimber and Colt use these days.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-23269522110527112542009-11-25T09:48:42.756-05:002009-11-25T09:48:42.756-05:00The SA lock was designed to give people a good rea...<i>The SA lock was designed to give people a good reason to swap out the MSH.</i><br /><br />Then it works like a charm. That's the first thing I do with a Springfield. Anybody in the market for the ILS parts? I've got a bunch in my toolbox.Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04792371712102784425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-31888789643654410072009-11-25T07:23:33.615-05:002009-11-25T07:23:33.615-05:00The SA lock was designed to give people a good rea...The SA lock was designed to give people a good reason to swap out the MSH.<br /><br />Personally, I can't imagine why anyone would ever apply the thing, but that's just me.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-38736203701647802342009-11-25T02:02:59.830-05:002009-11-25T02:02:59.830-05:00I think my Colt Officers models have 24lb recoil s...I think my Colt Officers models have 24lb recoil springs. With reverse recoil plugs. With and without guide rods. Still much easier to deal with than the Gov't Mod with that loonnggg spring. I think those "pop goes the weasel" type toys might have been designed by a 1911 Gov't owner. Local gun dealer is an unfortunately vivid reminder of why one should wear eye protection when working with that spring assembly!<br /><br />My 1911 oops: Springfield's lock in the mainspring housing? Don't turn the lock without the hammer spring assembly inside it. It permanently locks up. (Probably have to mill out the lock parts to salvage the housing.) Found the hidden owners manual afterwards, and it warns to not do this. (not mine-aarrgghh!!!) If that lock is designed as I suspect, I would never leave it on a 1911 intended for serious use. Because you might one day decide to use the lock, and it might not unlock due to manufacturing variations. Just because it works now, doesn't mean it always will. YMMVWillnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-24727031132735952912009-11-24T23:33:29.057-05:002009-11-24T23:33:29.057-05:00Word UP.
And Caleb:
"Hey, the full length ...Word UP. <br /><br />And Caleb: <br /><i>"Hey, the full length guide rod doesn't complicate stuff that much. Just make sure you have a good bushing wrench."</i><br /><br />Stop trying to bait me, son. ;)Matt Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03500429239798601210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-34796036588050406602009-11-24T22:51:06.090-05:002009-11-24T22:51:06.090-05:00I'm a newbie to 1911's and the only one I ...I'm a newbie to 1911's and the only one I own is a STI Spartan. Taking it down with that FLGR was a PITA! It's much easier now that I replaced it with a standard GI unit.<br /><br />Pity the gun isn't very accurate though. I plan to reinstall the original guide rod just in case it makes a difference.<br /><br />(Btw, I did have a known "good" 1911 shooter shoot the thing to make sure it wasn't just me. Neither one of use could wring decent accuracy out of it, although we both shot other pistols pretty well that day).<br /><br />Now, you want hair pulling frustration, I ABHOR stripping and reassembling my Ruger Mk II. I've had the thing at least 10 years now and STILL have to drag out the manual every time I take it down.<br />Damn hammer strut!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-81787464231056184832009-11-24T20:23:46.534-05:002009-11-24T20:23:46.534-05:00How to memorize a detailed reassembly of the 1911 ...How to memorize a detailed reassembly of the 1911 in one easy step...<br /><br /><br />Start this:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgXoWrrfp3Q<br /><br />Let it run for about 7 seconds.<br /><br />Then start this:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjCraFwgMGsMoriartynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-52448095173179554972009-11-24T20:06:35.360-05:002009-11-24T20:06:35.360-05:00I've never disassembled a 1911 (it's still...I've never disassembled a 1911 (it's still on my "to buy" list), but I'll second (third?) what tomcatshanger said about the Ruger Mark III (and it's predecessors). It's the only pistol I've heard of where the disassembly instructions recommend using a <i>hammer</i>, for Pete's sake!<br /><br />Even then, it's really not all that <i>complicated</i>, it's just... fiddly. And a bit of a PITA, especially if you take the barrel assembly off the grip (which I usually don't - it's not really necessary for just a routine cleaning). But it's not <i>complicated</i>.<br /><br />wv: chaeze - Would they like some chaeze with their whine?Jake (formerly Riposte3)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02976718318892210404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-42039897501736540432009-11-24T18:08:34.380-05:002009-11-24T18:08:34.380-05:00I've never had much trouble field stripping a ...I've never had much trouble field stripping a 1911, but I have to admit it is almost brain surgery compared to field stripping a SIG.alathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07774862634576632497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-38742177540842216742009-11-24T17:13:45.739-05:002009-11-24T17:13:45.739-05:00I replaced the water pump in a '93 Cavaliar, r...I replaced the water pump in a '93 Cavaliar, replaced the heads in a 1981 Camaro Z28, but damn if I had to take my Glock to an armorer to figure out how to detail strip it.Jayhttp://gunningtx.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-45228550796632422552009-11-24T16:14:00.733-05:002009-11-24T16:14:00.733-05:00My Dad taught me to shoot his 1911 about 40 years ...My Dad taught me to shoot his 1911 about 40 years ago. But he did not teach me how to field strip it.<br /><br />40 years later after owning mostly revolvers I finally bought an Armscor 1911A1. When I sat down to learn how to field strip it I was worried because I had heard it was hard. Suddenly I had a pile of pieces in my hands. Then after a couple misteps I had a working gun again. I haven't figured out yet what was supposed to be the hard part. <br /><br />You want hard? Try to explain to your 12 year old son how to replace the starter pull rope on a lawn mower - over the phone.Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-43301482982092877562009-11-24T15:54:47.964-05:002009-11-24T15:54:47.964-05:00Blackwing: My 1911 is also a Norinco 1911A1. No ne...Blackwing: My 1911 is also a Norinco 1911A1. No need for shame, they're a fine, functional gun.<br /><br />Like tomcatshanger said, they're all easy compared to a Ruger 22.<br /><br />There's a reason I don't clean my Mk. II every time after I shoot it (well, not thoroughly, at least) - and that's because it's not worth the effort of putting the !@#%$% thing back together.Sigivaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16152366541957466049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-8070494694374829552009-11-24T15:38:10.055-05:002009-11-24T15:38:10.055-05:00I don't mind field stripping any of my autoloa...I don't mind field stripping any of my autoloaders except for my .40 cal BHP. I can get it apart easily. No problem there. By on reassembly, I just cannot get that f_#$%^& recoil spring back in. I need a tool I bought from C&S and even then it's a big struggle! I like the BHP, but I seldom shoot it because of the difficulty reassembling it after cleaning.<br /><br />1911s are a breeze!Crucishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15441911110953212619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-51278367797541824532009-11-24T15:23:56.625-05:002009-11-24T15:23:56.625-05:00Wait, you mean I can't call the roadside servi...Wait, you mean I can't call the roadside service guys to do this? They change my tire for me.Davidwhitewolfhttp://www.softgreenglow.com/wpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-15306738264977903552009-11-24T15:04:30.502-05:002009-11-24T15:04:30.502-05:00theirritablearchitect said...
"...garages ha...<i>theirritablearchitect said... <br />"...garages had timing lights in them..."<br /><br />What do you mean had?</i><br /><br /><br />What he said. I still have one or two, but then I also think that "dealer service only" warnings on my cars and trucks constitute a challenge.jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07682952829635407505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-53656607266342724702009-11-24T13:40:41.775-05:002009-11-24T13:40:41.775-05:00In my defense: it was my first handgun, it was the...In my defense: it was my first handgun, it was the first time I had field-stipped it, and did I mention I'm not terribly bright?Dwight Brownhttp://www.sportsfirings.comnoreply@blogger.com