tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post8765416664547953977..comments2023-11-10T04:17:00.492-05:00Comments on View From The Porch: Blue on blue...Tamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-68782064587047316842014-04-07T10:53:07.847-04:002014-04-07T10:53:07.847-04:00It's no biggie; most people don't use dumm...It's no biggie; most people don't use dummy "blue guns" anyway. It turned out to be something of an esoteric topic. (embarrassed smilie here)<br /><br />I sometimes forget that other people don't hear the train of thought that led up to whatever random tangent I go rambling off on...Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-32185242226369106052014-04-06T20:33:16.908-04:002014-04-06T20:33:16.908-04:00If I misconstrue things you say just come on over ...If I misconstrue things you say just come on over and correct me. I miss things in my haste sometimes, and I don't see very well anymore. So, I could probably use your help when I pop off about something that may have nothing to do with the subject matter of a post.<br /><br />I post roughly 80 links to gunbloggers each week, and I am sure I get some things wrong. Most don't say anything. But that doesn't help much. Your willingness to speak up is most helpful.<br />AnthonyWelshmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14894597766174425492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-27290565815168765862014-04-05T03:02:14.189-04:002014-04-05T03:02:14.189-04:00I'm not sure where this comes from, but the id...I'm not sure where this comes from, but the idea just popped into my mind that, subconsciously, people think of Glocks as squirt guns. Possibly the plastic frames trigger this buried thought. I would never point my Officers Model at my hand, but a couple times I recall my similar sized G27 wandering toward the palm of my offhand while working on it. I always caught it with a WTF am I doing! reaction, but made note of it, since it seemed so unusual.<br /><br />It's the only plastic framed gun I have, so no idea if it transfers to other brands. Bit disquieting, though.<br /> <br />I watched that video of the Sheriff doing it, and was struck by how familiar the action looked. <br /><br />I think some of the squirt guns I had as a kid required you to block the muzzle and pump the trigger to prime the system. BINGO!!! That's where the memory comes from! <br />We would just bury the muzzle into the center of the off hand and pump until you would feel the water pressure.Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00722792638246578812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-48934278537501999842014-04-03T14:24:55.152-04:002014-04-03T14:24:55.152-04:00I know of more than one person who made a hole in ...I know of more than one person who made a hole in their left hand dissassembling their Glock unsafely. That's why I never point the gun at something I'm not willing to shoot when I pull the trigger to break down a Glock. And even then, you don't have to muzzle yourself to pull down on the tabs, so why would you?grendelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-41979771005737929292014-04-03T10:36:20.496-04:002014-04-03T10:36:20.496-04:00Who ever would have thought that the idea of using...Who ever would have thought that the idea of using a blue gun for training purposes where using a teal gun would make the baby Jeff Cooper cry would be contoversial.<br /><br />When I was in high school I left a movie theater one night to find half the sheriff's department and ambulance and assorted paraphernalia in the parking lot. Apparently there had been a field training excercise where the used unloaded service weapons instead of blue guns and the training officer who was playing the bad guy executed a deputy for realz. This left an impression on teenage gun nut me and in the ensuing 30 years this same thing seems to happen to cops several times a year and occasionally in CCW classes as well. Proof that some people adamantly refuse to learn anything from the mistakes of others no matter how serious the consequences.<br /><br />CoreyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-66816184197855739462014-04-03T08:17:51.464-04:002014-04-03T08:17:51.464-04:00Good habits carry over, and that INCLUDES with Blu...Good habits carry over, and that INCLUDES with Blue Guns... :-)Old NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-31226087827545987732014-04-03T02:17:21.732-04:002014-04-03T02:17:21.732-04:00Yes, pushing a pistols slide out of battery will s...Yes, pushing a pistols slide out of battery will stop it from shooting. Its also a good way to ruin your hand. Grabbing hold of a revolvers cylinder stops its rotation but if it was already cocked it'll still shoot. <br />Train, practice, stay aware of surroundings and how your carrying your weapon. Red or Blue guns are useful tools. Sport Pilothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04862280966739841769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-87664117729716246592014-04-03T00:54:46.274-04:002014-04-03T00:54:46.274-04:00Um, if you push pretty much any short-recoil opera...Um, if you push pretty much any short-recoil operated pistol out of battery, it won't fire.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-44930056337267065832014-04-03T00:47:02.407-04:002014-04-03T00:47:02.407-04:00Okay i know why people push the mussel into their ...Okay i know why people push the mussel into their palm. As far as I am aware it only works on the M1911 & M1911A1. If you push back on the barrel it will not fire. I know of no other handgun that has this safety(?)<br /><br />Kevin ST TexasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-56610517600544647832014-04-03T00:42:13.591-04:002014-04-03T00:42:13.591-04:00"Our department uses red guns only..."
..."<i>Our department uses red guns only...</i>"<br /><br />No offense meant, but institutional weapons training tends to be pretty LCD.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-49977345412903540782014-04-03T00:33:01.714-04:002014-04-03T00:33:01.714-04:00Our department uses red guns only to teach weapons...Our department uses red guns only to teach weapons retention and disarming someone holding a gun on you (AKA the Hail Mary technique).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-83583318600367815552014-04-02T23:32:02.397-04:002014-04-02T23:32:02.397-04:00I can hardly stand going to the fun shows anymore....I can hardly stand going to the fun shows anymore. Too many people pick up a heater and start coon fingering the trigger. I want to walk up to them and ask them if they understand what they're teaching their brain stems to do.<br /><br />Too many ijits. Too little time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-4820982881094869312014-04-02T23:22:33.469-04:002014-04-02T23:22:33.469-04:00Paul,
I might be mistaken.
I had read your comme...Paul,<br /><br />I might be mistaken.<br /><br />I had read your comment as saying that the things some people use a blue gun for, you would do with a real gun, but only after unloading it?Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-35916046199848939532014-04-02T22:03:24.605-04:002014-04-02T22:03:24.605-04:00So a case I would point a blue gun at someone or a...So a case I would point a blue gun at someone or allow it to be pointed at me. Martial arts training, either disarming or gun retention. <br /><br />Other than that I don't see a whole lot of use for them.DowneySofthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12702132868518145966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-32488913131885481452014-04-02T21:02:28.323-04:002014-04-02T21:02:28.323-04:00What WB said.
For me, the purpose of having a blu...What WB said.<br /><br />For me, the purpose of having a blue gun is to allow newbies to handle something, just like a real gun, and PRACTICE the Four Rules -- with 100% certainty of no danger whatsoever to anyone.<br /><br />I have another purpose for my Amazon.com yellow rubber Beretta, and the revolver-looking cap guns (also from Amazon). In addition to using them to instruct newbies, I can hide them around the house... and see if my boys (4 and 5.5) remember Eddie Eagle.<br /><br />One day I'll get around to explaining to the boys that, no, these are not real guns. To THEM, for now, they ARE real guns, and must be treated appropriately.Daniel in Brooklinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16296850357629131645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-34974727884341782132014-04-02T20:58:34.992-04:002014-04-02T20:58:34.992-04:00I would never hand a gun to anyone by pointing it ...I would never hand a gun to anyone by pointing it at them. <br /><br />Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15708868713277676628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-81001450657092898732014-04-02T20:15:00.877-04:002014-04-02T20:15:00.877-04:00Blue guns are no fun except training.
Given that ...Blue guns are no fun except training.<br /><br />Given that I'm one of those heretics who carries cross-draw it allows me to repeatedly practice my draw with no risk.<br /><br />Also it lets me teach new shooters how to handle a real gun without the real gun. Once they prove that they know how to do that bit its safer to move up to the unloaded real gun, then we can hit the range and actually get ammo involved. Weer'd Beardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13528978001340070552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-39829438097119010342014-04-02T19:20:30.011-04:002014-04-02T19:20:30.011-04:00tailwind,
"One of these days (maybe happened...tailwind,<br /><br />"<i>One of these days (maybe happened already) someone will paint a real gun the same shade of blue and then there will be trouble.</i>"<br /><br />That doesn't even make sense.<br /><br />Sure, I suppose someone could go hold up a bank with a real gun painted blue, or with fluorescent orange paint on the muzzle, or whatever, but that has EXACTLY DICK-ALL to do with me or you having inert dummy guns to use for certain types of training.<br /><br />Although you know what actually HAS caused trouble? Somebody painting an inert "blue gun" black like the real thing. That'll get your ass shot. Come to think of it, so will painting a real gun blue, because most people who carry guns don't care what color the gun you're pointing at them is, unless you've let them in on the joke ahead of time.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-84724007639619828102014-04-02T19:14:52.426-04:002014-04-02T19:14:52.426-04:00One of these days (maybe happened already) someone...One of these days (maybe happened already) someone will paint a real gun the same shade of blue and then there will be trouble.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-56456159582769262902014-04-02T18:01:10.310-04:002014-04-02T18:01:10.310-04:00"Stop pointing that gun at me."
"I..."<i>Stop pointing that gun at me.</i>"<br /><br />"It's not loaded!"<br /><br />"<i>Yeah? Well, this one is. And you're making me very nervous.</i>"Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-9894539760647608042014-04-02T17:58:44.893-04:002014-04-02T17:58:44.893-04:00Paul,
"I know I learned this one from the po...Paul,<br /><br />"<i>I know I learned this one from the police...</i>"<br /><br />Allow me to be blunt, here:<br />I don't give a fuck if you learned it from <i><b>Santa Claus</b></i>, you're not pointing a gun at me unless you want it fed to you. I don't care how "unloaded" you promise, honest Injun!, it is.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-83002380918697579962014-04-02T17:27:35.529-04:002014-04-02T17:27:35.529-04:00I think I would rather drill to unload anytime you...I think I would rather drill to unload anytime you are handed a gun and the four rules. <br /><br />I know I learned this one from the police, but I do agree that train like you fight, fight like you train is a good mantra.<br /><br />Blue guns have a place, I just don't know that it is mine. Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15708868713277676628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-6520685125118287972014-04-02T16:07:44.164-04:002014-04-02T16:07:44.164-04:00Next time you plan to be near Nashville let me kno...Next time you plan to be near Nashville let me know, I'll provide some weapons retention and disarming training. Sport Pilothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04862280966739841769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-40674049521398900272014-04-02T16:03:23.218-04:002014-04-02T16:03:23.218-04:00If I may be so bold: www.blueguns.com I bought t...If I may be so bold: www.blueguns.com I bought two of their painted 1873s as "stunt guns." They make 'em as their ordered so try not to send them a rush order.Cowboy Blobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13880979084783592543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-73848053683450661102014-04-02T16:00:47.553-04:002014-04-02T16:00:47.553-04:00Brownells and Amazon both carry Ring's.Brownells and Amazon both carry Ring's.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.com