tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post2408462351260764298..comments2023-11-10T04:17:00.492-05:00Comments on View From The Porch: If the pants fit, wet them.Tamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-81787076117500154842010-02-15T16:41:28.925-05:002010-02-15T16:41:28.925-05:00Joseyh: Randy Weaver had a couple of shotguns, an...Joseyh: Randy Weaver had a couple of shotguns, an SKS, some 10-22s and similar stuff in his "arsenal" for overthrowing the government.<br /><br />There is no gun you can own that won't cause a lefticle to piss his panties, so don't try. Buy the FN2000 (or whatever you like) and don't worry about it.Michael Z. Williamsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13543005122174458805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-35897660310801117692010-02-15T16:02:31.918-05:002010-02-15T16:02:31.918-05:00I was doing some moving and a portion of my stuff ...I was doing some moving and a portion of my stuff was at work for a time. I suddenly realized what that would look like to a news reporter "a man was arrested at his office today with two fully-semi-automatic assault pistols, a high capacity assault rifle, and 2,000 rounds of ammunition."<br /><br />I had my 1911, my model 66, and a Glenfield 60. Most of the ammo was 22 lr. All of it was locked in separate cases and nothing loaded.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-42717903701598873892010-02-15T14:35:35.593-05:002010-02-15T14:35:35.593-05:00"Everything else you hear in this article is ..."<i>Everything else you hear in this article is B.S.</i>"<br /><br />Yup. That was what I was saying.<br /><br />(BTW, who is "Marshal Law"? ;) )Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-39077416943246930882010-02-15T13:46:29.880-05:002010-02-15T13:46:29.880-05:00You have to look at all this from a straight forwa...You have to look at all this from a straight forward, logical approach. Essentially everything stated in the news article and even comments here are conjecture and illogically drawn conclusions / false cause and effect /etc.<br /><br />He told the police enough to make them think he was out of his tree. Of course, tell most anyone that you think marshal law/Armageddon is approaching and they will not draw the conclusion you are hoping for. That's a given, seems like he said it, it may have been recorded by the po-po.<br /><br />"Near military style arsenal"... pure sensationalism.<br /><br />His wife claims, "blah blah blah"... she has skin in the game and therefore her commentary is biased hearsay at best.<br /><br />Neighbors commentary is also "he said / she said". They could be telling the truth, but they could also be ganging up on the guy telling the po-po what they want to hear.<br /><br />I have a few holey targets of some of my best days at the range on the walls of my woodshop. It doesn't mean I was using my shop as a range. See the mis-drawn conclusion here? I shoot nails with a self propelled nail gun, sounds like a firearm - someone sees the targets and now we have proof that I was shooting in my shop right? Wrong. What if the guy purchased body armor SAPI plates that had been tested in order to get a good deal on them so he could add them to his vests/holders? Just because someone heard a sound and they found these plates does not compute to him shooting the plates in his attic. C'mon people.<br /><br />Is it illegal to own body armor and/or SAPI plates there? Most likely not. The po-po state the plate is illegal... that may simply be untrue.<br /><br />The short period of time he supposedly purchased these items is irrelevant... period.<br /><br />Hoarding food and medication... irrelevant. I bet any rural farmer on the outskirts of that town has more food and meds stored up... that too is irrelevant, but merely a point of comparison.<br /><br />Concerns with the number of weapons... irrelevant... period.<br /><br />Concerns with the proximity of other residents... irrelevant... period. What? If you live "close" to ANYONE you cannot own a firearm? This guy is saying anything possible to scare the unthinking public.<br /><br />"Potential for the significant danger to our community"... pure conjecture and spin. Was that guy the police spokesperson or just coached by one? <br /><br />The tear gas and pepper spray grenades may be illegal... that is a true possibility.<br /><br />The black painted sticks with leather lanyards may be illegal... that is a true possibility.<br /><br />This kind of weaponry "off the street"... it wasn't... period... irrelevant.<br /><br />Rarely left the house... irrelevant... period. Looks like he'd had to get out a lot "in the last 9 months" to purchase all that hardware. Last I checked you still had to go to a store or meet someone face to face to purchase firearms.<br /><br />The po-po will spend countless hours scouring the weapons and ammo only to find... nothing, in my opinion.<br /><br />Is this guy a loser, poser, and a little wacky? Maybe... but that's not necessarily illegal nor makes him dangerous.<br /><br />The facts are, he had some guns, and some ammo, and some knives, and some pepper spray incendiary devices, and some tear gas incendiary devices, and some batons, and some food, and some meds, and he may have said a couple things to the po-po. Soem of that may or MAY NOT be illegal to purchase and/or possess in his state. That is all. Everything else you hear in this article is B.S.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-40944222122649968832010-02-14T10:30:01.928-05:002010-02-14T10:30:01.928-05:00Dear ANON,
"Miss your meds today, Doug?
Oh,...Dear ANON,<br /><br />"Miss your meds today, Doug?<br /><br />Oh, and be sure wifey takes hers, too."<br /><br />Your critique of the ex-Director guy's statement would be interesting to read. Could you expand on it a bit?Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14025768362210499102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-53358316976690289812010-02-14T09:37:41.723-05:002010-02-14T09:37:41.723-05:00I guess this is an object lesson. If you're go...I guess this is an object lesson. If you're going down the path of pre-apocalpytic stockpiling and preparedness, you better make sure the spouse is on board. Or at least not prone to PSH.geekWithA.45https://www.blogger.com/profile/14770332791984947745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-42144094890169222942010-02-14T02:00:42.665-05:002010-02-14T02:00:42.665-05:0011 rifles?
I think the worst thing was that he ow...11 rifles?<br /><br />I think the worst thing was that he owned the tear gas and pepper spray grenades...<br />Or the illegal ballistic plate. Definitely the lone illegal thing that they know of.<br /><br />Sure, he had a few problems, but nothing that some therapy can't fix. <br /><br />Of course he might not be crazy if he wasn't married to a psychiatrist.<br /><br />Of course if any of the guns were illegal I have egg on my face.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17918762142748913227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-66127322821661270902010-02-14T00:07:16.037-05:002010-02-14T00:07:16.037-05:00Snerk!Snerk!Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-82563347575228042412010-02-13T23:55:02.389-05:002010-02-13T23:55:02.389-05:00"Infernal devices? What, the guy had three bo...<i>"Infernal devices? What, the guy had three bootleg copies of The Necronomicon and a Hand of Glory?"</i><br /><br />Nah, just a few Macs.Xrlqhttp://xrlq.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-85017405893830760562010-02-13T22:00:54.833-05:002010-02-13T22:00:54.833-05:00I notice many of the aformentioned comments refer ...I notice many of the aformentioned comments refer to 'an arsenal', as 'the media' usually does. I've taken to stating I own a 'small collection'. Because it is (1) a collection, and (2) small, by my standards, the only ones which should apply. Numbers are irrelvant, if the firearms are legally owned, just like an amount of ammunition.Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-10330652580145256582010-02-13T21:05:18.558-05:002010-02-13T21:05:18.558-05:00Miss your meds today, Doug?
Oh, and be sure wifey...Miss your meds today, Doug?<br /><br />Oh, and be sure wifey takes hers, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-73003328374899254762010-02-13T20:19:38.709-05:002010-02-13T20:19:38.709-05:00Just a common comment that the Americans were trai...Just a common comment that the Americans were trained to not understand, and to thus perpetually endure the grief they cause themselves by their refusal to question contradictions....<br /><br />"An inferior law contradicted by a superior law holds no weight, effect or enforceability as law."<br /><br />The use of power of office to enforce an inferior law contradicted by a superior law constitutes fraud, evasion of a known legal duty, perjury to oath of office, malfeasance and other crimes.<br /><br />Anyone can formally file criminal charges against a government officer, and make them public, and state in the charge that each next superior officer will be formally charged with criminal evasion of a known legal duty if said officers do not, at their duty, initiate due process of law upon presentation of reasonable evidence that a crime has been committed.<br /><br />Then name each superior officer. Government easily flimflams individuals, but is extremely vulnerable to the law itself, if you understand the law.<br /><br />Etceteras.<br /><br />The reason NRA leaders and other gun owner rights organizations refuse to simply manifest the process that would immediately effect the substance of the second amendment is that they are making too much money on donations and leadership ego gratification to stop bilking gullible, unquestioning members.<br /><br />I am being called to dinner by a gourmet chef with a larger arsenal than mine. And she is a better shot. Gotta go.<br /><br />DougBuchanan.com<br />previous NRA directorDougBuchanan.comhttp://dougbuchanan.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-47587617565806131322010-02-13T20:17:54.594-05:002010-02-13T20:17:54.594-05:00"Is it bad when they are reading off the list...<em>"Is it bad when they are reading off the list of items seized from the local 'crazy' and it reads like the shopping list you are kicking around in your head?"</em><br /><br />See my previous statement, and I personally know a bunch of folks who make me look like a piker when it comes to our respective armories.theirritablearchitecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04105315709746689270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-51634978972983266072010-02-13T20:12:27.447-05:002010-02-13T20:12:27.447-05:00Not sure about the legality (spit) of the tear gas...Not sure about the legality (spit) of the tear gas and pepper spray grenades, but the rest of it is probably less firepower than most of the readership of this blog.<br /><br />Bedwetters, indeed.theirritablearchitecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04105315709746689270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-23680013334875776092010-02-13T19:24:00.798-05:002010-02-13T19:24:00.798-05:00"1. His wife is a psychiatrist, and she was s..."1. His wife is a psychiatrist, and she was scared of him. That's a problem."<br /><br />You could have stopped at the comma and been more correct.lorenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00011213166003657827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-35107326109682007622010-02-13T16:44:58.750-05:002010-02-13T16:44:58.750-05:00"Do we know he was firing centerfire rifles u..."Do we know he was firing centerfire rifles up there? Or were they air rifles?"<br /><br /><br />My basement range is for air guns, but the press would probably not care to note that fact.Z@Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06993343918438930816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-67259644393945679512010-02-13T15:32:50.807-05:002010-02-13T15:32:50.807-05:00More information is required.
JimMore information is required.<br /><br />JimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-49323212905591968742010-02-13T14:51:12.116-05:002010-02-13T14:51:12.116-05:00I liked William Grigg's take on this:
"S...I liked William Grigg's take on this:<br /><br />"Since it is unacceptable for people to believe that government agents will carry out paramilitary raids to confiscate firearms, a paramilitary force was sent to Girard’s home to confiscate his firearms."<br /><br />WV=frygoul. A little gamy, but edible with chili sauce.Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03442354270552212335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-1162908060741454942010-02-13T14:40:49.243-05:002010-02-13T14:40:49.243-05:00Do we know he was firing centerfire rifles up ther...Do we know he was firing centerfire rifles up there? Or were they air rifles? Or .22s?Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-75027213957449856112010-02-13T13:22:15.546-05:002010-02-13T13:22:15.546-05:00As the resident contrariant totalitarian statist s...As the resident contrariant totalitarian statist school teacher, I'm going to go ahead and make two observations:<br /><br />1. His wife is a psychiatrist, and she was scared of him. That's a problem.<br /><br />2. He was apparently firing rifles indoors in an urban/suburban neighborhood with nothing for a backstop but a "ballistic" plate that looked like it came out of a set of body armor. How large could that thing possibly have been?<br /><br />Sorry. I realize the media is being sensational about the number of guns and the like, but this guy was dangerous.Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15824445546892392815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-19113696338749733112010-02-13T12:20:59.426-05:002010-02-13T12:20:59.426-05:00"He was also charged with the illegal possess..."He was also charged with the illegal possession of four police batons."<br /><br />The 20 guns were legal, but he had illegal STICKS! Priceless.<br /><br />wv: bastori -- "Mommy, where did I come from?"Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10595960360013731640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-14775518727944427262010-02-13T11:14:44.256-05:002010-02-13T11:14:44.256-05:00Is it bad when they are reading off the list of it...Is it bad when they are reading off the list of items seized from the local 'crazy' and it reads like the shopping list you are kicking around in your head?<br /><br />Oh, and 1 word: OpSec.<br /><br />Indoor range in a 4 unit building? Talking openly to other people about "shooting traitors in the head"? Telling the cops, point blank, that your getting read for Armageddon?<br /><br />Keep your damn trap shut, ya moron. Theres a reason that I want to get out of apartment living...too many people with prying eyes who may be the bedwetter to make a mountain out of nothing at all.taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07095443665875468817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-20625505255484153302010-02-13T10:59:10.050-05:002010-02-13T10:59:10.050-05:00I once had a range in my basement, and fired rifle...I once had a range in my basement, and fired rifles up to 45/70 there. (It was a big basement :-)<br /><br />I sure hope that doesn't make me a kook.<br /><br />It might help that I had it inspected by the local police instructor at my request, and they gave me some excellent tips on managing air flow over the range.<br /><br />This guy... my guess is it was an air rifle/pistol range. Anything else and the neighbors would have been unhappy in the extreme. I know I would have been....<br /><br />Speaking of home ranges, I need to order a new steel target for my back yard (g).Carteachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08468700184940877315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-54465231361218072862010-02-13T10:52:44.649-05:002010-02-13T10:52:44.649-05:00Sometimes you need to realize that there are psych...Sometimes you need to realize that there are psychos out there buying guns who should at least be separated from them until cured. I do not mean normal people with eccentricities, nor normal people with strong political convictions, I do mean people with mental disorders that may lead to violent behavior. This guy could have been one of them.<br /><br />Then again, it could all be bs made up by a wife who maybe wants a divorce. I must point out though, I don't know why she would be afraid of him, he had just about 2 of everything in protective gear - his and hers so to speak. Of course, when asked why he stockpiled all of the weapons and survival supplies, he reportedly told police that he was preparing for Armageddon; he probably could have phrased it differently. <br /><br />While stockpiling for TEOTWAWKI shojuld never be reason to confiscate legally obtained weapons, maybe there were some other reasons here. How many of you have a range in the top floor of your home? I would never shoot in my home without having a professionally built range installed. I wonder who installled this man's 'range'. I wonder if the siding and backing on the walls was sufficient to prevent rounds from going through to hit his neighbors. <br /><br />I am tending to think his firearms were seized not so much because he was loopy but because law enforcement probably thinks he is psychotic. Based upon some of the statements he reportedly made, plus the build-up of arms over a short period, plus his using his loft as a range might be enough for probable cause for a warrant and a seizure.<br /><br />I am not saying that the legal actions were justified, just that maybe they were when based upon all the circumstances in this particular case. Sometimes the government is truly there to protect the citizenry.<br /><br />I certainly would like to hear of the outcome of all of this. Yet, as one person above pointed out, the end result is often not reported in such cases.<br /><br />All the best,<br />Glennn BGlenn Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16677859688487279914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-61073044734304014832010-02-13T10:10:57.171-05:002010-02-13T10:10:57.171-05:00No way, your arsenal will take the high school gym...No way, your arsenal will take the high school gymnasium floor, and a whole company of hefty law enforcement folks to move in time for the evening news. Too much work.Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14794620086508373660noreply@blogger.com