tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post2895642584409814204..comments2023-11-10T04:17:00.492-05:00Comments on View From The Porch: Things I Don't Get, #349,723Tamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-60078056158147191432012-03-06T18:51:32.759-05:002012-03-06T18:51:32.759-05:00Obama wishes to thank you for your support.Obama wishes to thank you for your support.Fiftycalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-79737843943450174892012-03-06T14:17:36.859-05:002012-03-06T14:17:36.859-05:00My standard response for such partisan nonsense th...My standard response for such partisan nonsense these days is invariably "Demunicipalize the Garbage Service" - http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/demunicipalize-the-garbage-service/<br /><br />They're saying that once we're in a position to change everything entirely, then they'll take us seriously? We're living in such a fundamentally unlibertarian world that until people can understand that minor, fundamental actions like privatizing services are possible, we're not going to get anywhere at all.AMBhttp://www.aaronmbrown.net/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-23027321522118554962012-03-06T12:54:34.737-05:002012-03-06T12:54:34.737-05:00Tam: I used to run the LP in Oregon for two years ...Tam: I used to run the LP in Oregon for two years as chairman there.<br /><br />The reason I joined the Republican party is because the LP literally can't elect anyone to serve as a dogcatcher.<br /><br />They want to make the big decisions, but they don't want to get serious about getting elected. If writing screeds was the road to political power, they would be holding ALL of the posts right now.<br /><br />At some point, if you want to get people elected, you have to commit to working the election process. You can't get Libertarians to even agree that elections themselves are a necessary evil.<br /><br />I want to get pro-liberty candidates elected. My best chance of doing that is to work inside the GOP towards accomplishing that. Folks like me, and the TEA Party are here for the long haul to get that done. And no, clearing RINO deadwood ain't happening overnight, sorry.Kristophrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08370888276707569365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-77512730224992031882012-03-06T12:52:03.159-05:002012-03-06T12:52:03.159-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Kristophrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08370888276707569365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-64816451462338393962012-03-06T07:27:10.332-05:002012-03-06T07:27:10.332-05:00Hell sakes !!
Wut they all said.
Nuff said...Hell sakes !!<br /><br />Wut they all said.<br /><br />Nuff said...Spudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00689059709873763146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-38078220099643088342012-03-06T06:49:42.586-05:002012-03-06T06:49:42.586-05:00Tam,
One problem I would like to see government f...Tam,<br /><br />One problem I would like to see government fix -- I want to make it a federal felony to spend political contributions more than 100 miles away from the donor's home address.<br /><br />That way California and Florida activists cannot threaten Iowans and people living in New Hampshire. Note -- it is just the out-of-state interference in local politics I decry, not any particular state or other demographic.<br /><br />And I think I would end government regulation and support of candidates, too, outside of enforcing, vehemently, the 100 mile rule against activists, unions, corporations, non-profit organizations, and anyone else wanting to spend money to bother folks that aren't their neighbors.Brad K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18378344866487206569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-17461475027565135552012-03-05T23:05:50.530-05:002012-03-05T23:05:50.530-05:00Small-l libertarian. Elected. Judge. Waaaay ahe...Small-l libertarian. Elected. Judge. Waaaay ahead of a freakin' dog catcher. Feel free to tell 'em to take you seriously now.The Infamous Oregon Lawhobbitnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-17817772855643470452012-03-05T21:40:39.481-05:002012-03-05T21:40:39.481-05:00Here I was thinking Ed forgot the Democrats.
Silly...Here I was thinking Ed forgot the Democrats.<br />Silly me.<br /><br />The biggest problem with government in this country is that elected officials think most of us WANT them to do something about everything.<br />Hell, I think it's a good place to tuck the maggots so the rest of us can get about the business of running America through free enterprise. <br />Unfortunately, they have the 3-lettered ΘΥΓ agencies to enforce their little student council decisions and the hits just keep piling on.Buzznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-51723570435182647372012-03-05T20:50:13.532-05:002012-03-05T20:50:13.532-05:00Tam,
This always sounds to my ears as "Well,...Tam,<br /><br /><i>This always sounds to my ears as "Well, our guys may be despicable turd-burglars, but at least they win elections!" and therefore makes absolutely no sense to me. </i><br /><br />It makes sense to me ... but only if I adjust my thinking to the "winning is the only thing that matters!" mode so beloved by partisans of both parties. They're guilty of the Ends and Means Fallacy: they're so focused on the means (winning elections) that they've forgotten what you're supposed to do after you win an election, which is <b>govern according to your principles.</b> <br /><br />When I'm thinking normally, and remember that winning elections is only a means to an end, that POV makes as little sense to me as it does to you.wolfwalkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-43007211781047477882012-03-05T19:26:06.808-05:002012-03-05T19:26:06.808-05:00We are living with the results of not heeding the ...We are living with the results of not heeding the advice of one of our founding fathers. "Progressive" types love to tell us that times have changed, we cannot be sure of the intent of the founders and other such bs. Washington was fairly explicit in his warning against political parties; I do not believe that his intention can be misinterpreted. We're pretty well bent over and violated by the entrenched, self serving establishment parties and those too ignorant to see the truth.Ken Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09422188798012989045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-60467690744979452302012-03-05T16:39:54.691-05:002012-03-05T16:39:54.691-05:00I find it interesting that the RINO crowd which ke...I find it interesting that the RINO crowd which keeps exhorting us to vote for the candidate their machine vomits up uses the excuse that, "Well, at least he's better than that twit over there with the "D" after their name. We've got a whole bunch of people who will vote for any yellow-dog with an "R" after their name, so you'd better support them, too."<br /><br />There appears to be a fair chunk of the electorate (a swing portion, in my opinion) that considers themselves to be libertarians. Others consider themselves "independents", or give themselves some other moniker. Yet others on the (fringes of) the Dem-wing and Rep-wing of the major party would actually vote for someone who could carry through on a promise to run a limited government, with enumerated powers.<br /><br />So I attempt to point out that if the Rep-wingers were to actually nominate and run someone like this (Ron Paul comes about as close as possible, today), they'd still have an "R" after their name, and all of the Rep-wing yellow-dog voters would reflexively pull the level for him.<br /><br />But in addition, they'd get an overwhelming majority vote, since they'd ALSO win the independents, libertarians, and others who simply see no difference between statist, Marxist/collectivist policies initiated by somebody with a "D" after their name, and the exact same statist, Fascist/collectivist policies initiated by somebody with an "R" after their name.Blackwing1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-4871542609191733052012-03-05T15:31:05.139-05:002012-03-05T15:31:05.139-05:00In related news, we here in Washington State have ...In related news, we here in Washington State have no presidential primaries. Courts shot down our open primary, in a lawsuit brought by the Party of Evil, because those nasssssty Rethuglicans, we hatessss them, my prrecioussss, were voting for loser Evil candidates. The Party of Stupid supported the suit, however, on the theory that is was possible that, someday, they might have a candidate in the Libtard districts who might have a chance, but the Evils might vote for the typical losers they get. <br /><br />Last weekend was the Party of Stupid caucuses--cauci?--in this state, and they were overwhelmed by the turnout. Almost every meeting was an overflow crowd. <br /><br />Which would be a good sign if the slate weren't still a shit sandwich, AND if the "straw polls" at the cauci were in any way binding on the delegates to the state convention.Dranghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08082177597135236652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-78307489231366291682012-03-05T14:13:06.037-05:002012-03-05T14:13:06.037-05:00Ed,
"Some is very valid, but some is media h...Ed,<br /><br />"<i>Some is very valid, but some is media hype (aka "Patriotic Act" which doesn't quite tear up the Bill of Rights they way many folks think)</i>"<br /><br />I'm well aware of what it contains, and while it did happen on the GOP's watch, I'm not willing to pin the blame entirely on them. It's little more than a laundry list of DOJ proposals, some of them dating back to the Carter administration, that had been shot down or vetoed over the years.<br /><br />That you and I differ on how wrong it is probably reflects our differing views of government and not our differing grasps of the (laughably-misnamed, by my way of thinking) law itself.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-43747602309198530312012-03-05T13:22:21.259-05:002012-03-05T13:22:21.259-05:00Dealing with a harsh crowd here. But I was speakin...Dealing with a harsh crowd here. But I was speaking of the core ideology of the parties. Your rebuttal can't be disagreed with, but it relates to the deterioration of that ideology. Some is very valid, but some is media hype (aka "Patriotic Act" which doesn't quite tear up the Bill of Rights they way many folks think) and some is unrelated (aka "local politics" which is typically non-partisan and inevitably not ideological). The point is made though, that the electorate doesn't care or understand, the voter doesn't inform himself, and the incumbents have been corrupted. Abandon hope and live out your life in quiet dispair.Ed Rasimushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13667325554289268659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-75375005730222274722012-03-05T13:18:43.016-05:002012-03-05T13:18:43.016-05:00one party pays lip service to individual responsib...<i>one party <b>pays lip service to</b> individual responsibility and free markets</i><br /><br />FTFY, Ed. ;-)<br /><br />That out of the way, there is one good thing about a party that pays lip service to individual responsibility and free markets: there's always at least a possibility that a candidate from that party actually means it.AuricTechhttp://aurictech.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-16875757531976706842012-03-05T13:03:26.688-05:002012-03-05T13:03:26.688-05:00and Alito and Roberts; no, they ain't perfect,...and Alito and Roberts; no, they ain't perfect, but when calling a coin flip I want the coin to at least have the possibility of bearing the face I want.<br />can you cite a favorable dem example of recent vintage?steve lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00665879963818545137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-28188296368525967882012-03-05T12:10:53.900-05:002012-03-05T12:10:53.900-05:00steve l,
You meant the party of Justices Souter a...steve l,<br /><br />You meant the party of Justices Souter and Stevens, right?Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-33003859939300111912012-03-05T12:04:31.710-05:002012-03-05T12:04:31.710-05:00Living overseas taught me that elephant poop is bi...Living overseas taught me that elephant poop is bigger than donkey poop.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-4663874377617383802012-03-05T11:58:16.327-05:002012-03-05T11:58:16.327-05:00yes Virgina there is still one way to tell the par...yes Virgina there is still one way to tell the parties apart:<br /><br />the party of Justice Thomas vs the party of Justice Ginsbergsteve lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00665879963818545137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-4171386161993235152012-03-05T11:17:25.408-05:002012-03-05T11:17:25.408-05:00Panamared,
The bus went through the guardrail qui...Panamared,<br /><br />The bus went through the guardrail quite some time back, somewhere between the administrations of Lincoln and Roosevelt (not the gimpy Roosevelt, the somewhat less bad one,) and was over the cliff by the time we voted for that racist, fascist pointdexter from Princeton.<br /><br />It's been an exercise in arm-flapping for amusement on the way down ever since.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-33873365371375514832012-03-05T11:05:23.946-05:002012-03-05T11:05:23.946-05:00It may well be that part of the problem with what...It may well be that part of the problem with what's happening in America is that the idea that we live in a Democracy is so wide spread. The Founding Fathers were adamant that they had not produced a Democracy, but a Representative Republic. <br /><br />The fact that a child can be hassled and shut down from operating a lemonade stand is an indication of how Government can get out of control without proper citizen input.<br /><br />No matter how well our Government was designed, without proper and constant oversight by an educated citizenry this country is doomed.<br /><br />For what ever reason the majority of the people I know that have thrown their hands in the air and given up on voting are constitutionalists. If this trend continues it will be a self fulfilling prophecy.Panamarednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-35193220238512616152012-03-05T11:04:56.680-05:002012-03-05T11:04:56.680-05:00I understand the concept of protest voting very we...I understand the concept of protest voting very well.<br /><br />I plan to register as a republican for 24 hours in order to vote for Ron Paul in the upcoming primary. I just want to sooth my own conscience.<br /><br />If the back room boys at the dead elephant party insist on Mittens vs.Obama, I'll vote for Obama. And let the pieces fall where they may......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-37997728966621295922012-03-05T11:02:34.695-05:002012-03-05T11:02:34.695-05:00All together now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=...All together now!<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7b7ybDaGEE&feature=relatedStretchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-66002270400507513092012-03-05T10:22:22.512-05:002012-03-05T10:22:22.512-05:00Tam, you should give up even your protest and self...Tam, you should give up even your <a href="http://www.improvedclinch.com/index.php/weblog/comments/im_thinking_clearly_now/" rel="nofollow">protest and self-defense voting</a>.John Venlethttp://www.improvedclinch.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-70215039176989288472012-03-05T09:56:22.581-05:002012-03-05T09:56:22.581-05:00My other favorite response to that sort of thing i...My other favorite response to that sort of thing is "what, are you opposed to democracy?" to which they are always totally gobsmacked when I reply "well, yes, of course I am."<br /><br />WV: "ponecide weeryin" -- I find this form of ponycide very wearying.perlhaqrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920117742664645165noreply@blogger.com