tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post479577413411361897..comments2023-11-10T04:17:00.492-05:00Comments on View From The Porch: You both get muddy and the pig's still retarded.Tamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-20416950647178044692011-03-05T17:57:57.056-05:002011-03-05T17:57:57.056-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-71561229271718102902011-03-03T03:07:29.253-05:002011-03-03T03:07:29.253-05:00Justthisguy -
Doesn't help when I use a corre...Justthisguy -<br /><br />Doesn't help when I use a correctly spelled word wrongly, and I do a lot of this on my my iPhone. Say I miss type a word leaving out a letter, once I hit space it will throw (see I almost used through here) in a word that it think I ment and it's never even close. <br />Sometimes I want to find the head programer for apple spellcheck and beat them about the head with an iPad. <br /><br />Sigh...<br />JoshJosh Kruschkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288700371539530398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-63461997478363678352011-03-03T01:15:52.419-05:002011-03-03T01:15:52.419-05:00Joshkie, as I said to you over at Rory's blog,...Joshkie, as I said to you over at Rory's blog, I love you, bro'.<br /><br />However, may I beg to suggest to you that a spell-check program could be your friend, so to speak?Justthisguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17277333206171756636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-25605433323510379302011-03-02T19:54:06.215-05:002011-03-02T19:54:06.215-05:00The day it became common-place for the less than A...The day it became common-place for the less than American among us to insist that government could them a right (whether it be collective bargaining or free cable), they had sold their soul to the devil. There is simply no freedom or liberty with a belief like that. At the end of the day you and whatever you earn belong to someone else. <br /><br />There is a good reason why rights come from God. It's because they can't be repealed unless someone can walk on water, raise the dead, or better yet, outrun a bullet. Yet they can be turned over and swapped for shiny trinkets (like how we got NY, which in hindsight I think we overpayed). My greatest fear is not of us descending into a mob, but of us all falling asleep. Seriously, what can we call the last 100 years in this country but the Big Sleep? We have lost more of our souls in the last hundred years and for what? What have we gained out of it except a bunch of broken promises and a permanent class of self-entitled beggars who contribute nothing but "shit, misery, and red tape?" For some reason true liberty always seems to be on borrowed time....atlharphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02038518966004553345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-19258752302170872402011-03-02T17:45:12.341-05:002011-03-02T17:45:12.341-05:00I will admit that I comment over at Joan Peterson&...I will admit that I comment over at Joan Peterson's blog purely for entertainment value, and not much else. I find something amusing and vaguely fascinating about her thought processes. I can't figure out if it's the same way I'd find a train wreck vaguely fascinating, or it's more like a kid with an ant farm kind of thing.Sebastianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14648225987293475835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-13199860615202098262011-03-02T13:18:55.743-05:002011-03-02T13:18:55.743-05:00Divemedic,
You've crossed something up in you...Divemedic,<br /><br />You've crossed something up in your argument, here, and it has to do with who's holding the gun to whose head for that extra compensation you're talking about.<br /><br />Get it?theirritablearchitecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04105315709746689270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-48179192060150628302011-03-02T09:59:11.097-05:002011-03-02T09:59:11.097-05:00Dedicated_Dad -
Someone holding a gun to your hea...Dedicated_Dad -<br /><br />Someone holding a gun to your head forcing you to live in a blue state. Here's a an idea move to somewhere more to your liking. It irritates me when people play the victim cause the choices open to the are not to their liking. <br />Choices:<br /><br />1. Do nothing accept what ever job comes a long. <br />2. Accept a closed shop job while work towards right to work.<br />3. Move to a state with right to work. <br /><br />Oh wait that's easy for you to say, what about if I don't have money to move?<br /><br />4. Accept any job, save and move.<br /><br />A new low....sigh. How takes some f'n personal responsibility and control for your own life. <br /><br />JoshJosh Kruschkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288700371539530398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-57820655763084883832011-03-02T03:23:55.491-05:002011-03-02T03:23:55.491-05:00That's ridiculous.
Try getting a blue-collar ...That's ridiculous.<br /><br />Try getting a blue-collar job in a "blue state" without joining a union.<br /><br />That's a new low - which is saying something -- really.<br /><br /><br />Michael Barone (http://liten.be//3g4cL) summed it up best:<br />"...In effect, public employee unions are a mechanism by which every taxpayer is forced to fund the Democratic Party..."<br /><br />Exactly.Dedicated_Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06375339835638311982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-63364534356710012802011-03-02T02:59:20.667-05:002011-03-02T02:59:20.667-05:00Dicated_Dad -
I would like to add we still have ...Dicated_Dad - <br /><br />I would like to add we still have a choice whether we work in a closed shop or not up intill they make it 'mandatory' to go to your job by the force of arms.<br /><br />JoshJosh Kruschkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288700371539530398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-483154954050213222011-03-01T22:47:01.566-05:002011-03-01T22:47:01.566-05:00Andrew Wilkow (Sirius/XM Patriot - 144/166) is IMH...Andrew Wilkow (Sirius/XM Patriot - 144/166) is IMHO about the best (perhaps ONLY TRUE) conservative talk-show host on the air. The points which follow are his, perhaps paraphrased as I'm not near as eloquent as he.<br /><br />Why is it that - if their ideas are so **GOOD** for everyone - The Collectivists always make them MANDATORY? If they're so great, then optional should be enough to make everyone join -- right?<br /><br />Examples (few among many): Union shops. Social(ism) Security. Taxpayer-funded schools.<br /><br />As to the "public employee unions - they are illegitimate, and a clear conflict of interests.<br /><br />Taken out of the public context, the "elected officials" would be "The Board of Directors", and We The People (taxpayers) would be the Corporation.<br /><br />In private business, The Board negotiates with the Union, and represents the interests of The Corporation and/or its shareholders.<br /><br />If The Board fails to act in the interests of The Corp/Shareholders, they can remove them and replace them with others who will.<br /><br />In PUBLIC however, this is corrupted. First, it represents a clear "conflict of interests." <br /><br />The "elected officials" **PROPER** position, when "bargaining" with We The People's employees, is to represent the interests of ITS shareholders (We The People) - but that is not what happens.<br /><br />The Unions elect politicians (read: Democrats), who then shower perks and favors on the Union - who then can afford to contribute more to the election of more Democrats, who... and so on, and so on, and so on -- all at the expense of We The People.<br /><br />This is further illegitimate because if a Corporation gives excessive leeway to a union, contrary to the interests of the shareholders, I have the right to sell my shares in that company.<br /><br />In the "public sector" however, I have no such rights. My property -- my very LIFE (or at minimum 10 working-hours per week thereof) -- is extorted from me at the point of a .gov gun, which is held in the hand of one of the aforementioned union-members. Further, any disputes I may have with them -- even the terms of our interactions -- are decided by "union members" and enforced by them as well. <br /><br />The fact is that if you ran *YOUR* business this way, they'd put YOU in PRISON!<br /><br />Frankly, even if the aforegoing were not so, I will always oppose public-sector unions (and - honestly - private-sector as well) for one simple reason: they are the epitome of Collectivism, and perfectly illustrative of the worst of the evils thereof.<br /><br />Since We The People cannot disband our "Corporation", or sell our shares therein and remove ourselves from the liabilities thereof, We The People have the right to decide whether our "corporation" will be unionized or not.<br /><br />Pure, common sense.Dedicated_Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06375339835638311982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-64438125327833510692011-03-01T19:25:32.503-05:002011-03-01T19:25:32.503-05:00Point clarification:
I was talking about how the ...Point clarification:<br /><br />I was talking about how the Founding fathers understood and used the word Militia, when they wrote the 2nd Amendment. If I want to understand their intent I will read their words.<br />For the last 100 years we have what is called case law, and it's been the slow corruption of our understanding of the law and the Constitution. We no longer have legal system based on the Constitution but in case law.<br />So we are know left fighting battles over an over in the courts.<br /><br />JoshJosh Kruschkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288700371539530398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-45678432661508681572011-03-01T19:14:53.472-05:002011-03-01T19:14:53.472-05:00Divemedic,
One, you assumed we were anti-union.
W...Divemedic,<br /><br />One, you assumed we were anti-union.<br />We are not.<br /><br />The unions are not wrong because they are unions. They are wrong because of HOW they act.<br /><br />For example, there is nothing wrong with being a salesman, but it is wrong to be a high pressure salesman.<br /><br />Unions are often good, but those that think THEIR collective "rights" trump EVERYONE else's rights need to pull their collective heads out of an ass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-74986787816600232332011-03-01T18:51:09.928-05:002011-03-01T18:51:09.928-05:00Collective bargaining in the form of a union usual...Collective bargaining in the form of a union usually means a closed shop, too. Where's the "freedom" in being required to join?<br /><br /> In my line of work, there are a lot of remnants, tiny union shops with little or no exclusive jurisdiction, which poison relations with management and rarely get members anything in the way of better pay, benefits or hours. But we're stuck with them as long as the law allows closed shops. (And $DEITY help you if you should push the one or two buttons over which they still have jurisdiction).<br /><br /> But even aside from that observation...<br /><br /> Government employees are different from other employees because their employer is different from all other employers. Even if their employer "gos broke," it doesn't go away; and when their employer runs low on cash, all it has to do is shake down the taxpayers. Even FDR had problems with unions for public employees.Roberta Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09956807794520627885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-66954696180246825682011-03-01T18:44:44.448-05:002011-03-01T18:44:44.448-05:00Divemedic,
It was a tradition in the U.S., up unt...Divemedic,<br /><br />It was a tradition in the U.S., up until fairly recently, that officers in the military did not vote.<br /><br />Then again, they were officially gentlemen, whereas garbage collectors and kindergarten teachers are not.<br /><br />People are free to decide which group they find more worthy of emulation.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-84758416755991198162011-03-01T18:35:59.501-05:002011-03-01T18:35:59.501-05:00I'm tried very hard not to, but I have to answ...I'm tried very hard not to, but I have to answer this.<br /><br />Divemedic, here's the difference between collective bargaining and petitioning.<br /><br />If you petition, legislators have a right to say no to your petition to bargain with them. You carried out your constitutionally protected right to petition and they carried out their protected right to say "No".<br /><br />In collective bargaining, legislator's (and by extension the taxpayers) don't get the right to say "No" and are forced to bargain with a union. That's why Wisconsin had to pass a law allowing collective bargaining in the first place.<br /><br />If one side's right to say no is taken away then they are the one's losing their right to free speech. <br /><br />Truthfully though I'd like to agree to disagree with you on this subject, I'm obviously not going to convince you and you're not going to convince me and stalemates can be soooooo boringMattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-85717815989280368702011-03-01T17:51:50.703-05:002011-03-01T17:51:50.703-05:00Matt: What do you think collective bargaining is? ...Matt: What do you think collective bargaining is? A group of employees get together (assemble) and negotiate for working conditions (petition government for a redress of grievances). To make it illegal for me to do so is just as wrong as making assault weapons illegal. After all, you can still use the weapons for defense, you just won't be as effective at it.<br /><br />The Amendment says "Congress shall make NO law..."<br /><br />Just what do you think "no" means?Divemedichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14583007051962299381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-33505213039403916162011-03-01T17:41:02.072-05:002011-03-01T17:41:02.072-05:00@ Don Meaker
Good point about the meaning of mili...@ Don Meaker<br /><br />Good point about the meaning of militia.<br /><br />The other thing that many forget or didn't know is that "well regulated" didn't refer to legislation controlling a militia. Its usage during the colonial area had more to do with the militia being well trained and disciplined.<br /><br />http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndmea.html gives a pretty good break down on the exact meaning of the 2nd.Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-72218050729168824642011-03-01T17:33:01.796-05:002011-03-01T17:33:01.796-05:00Honestly Divemedic, hyperbole isn't a good way...Honestly Divemedic, hyperbole isn't a good way to win argument, besides, this conversation is going the way of those gun blogs Tam was talking about. Therefore, this will be my last post on this subject. <br /><br />You do understand that collective bargaining isn't a right guaranteed by the Constitution? In Wisconsin they bragged about how legislation was passed 50 years ago allowing CB. What the legislature can give, the legislature can take away.<br /><br />That doesn't mean you can't assemble or petition, it just means that you may not be as effective at it. But what it really comes down to is that in this country no one owes you a job. If they change your conditions of employment, you, like everyone else are entitled to leave that job and find another one.<br /><br />One last thing, before I got laid off a while back I had to take a 20% pay cut. I didn't like it but the housing industry was (and is) in such bad shape there wasn't any other choice. At the same time the teacher's union in Maryland was complaining loudly because they were only going to get a 5% raise instead of 7% while the economy was tanking. <br /><br />And Done !Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-10310556792633146032011-03-01T17:29:30.439-05:002011-03-01T17:29:30.439-05:00Legally, Title 10, section 311 defines militia. Th...Legally, Title 10, section 311 defines militia. That includes men from 17 to 45, women if they are in the national guard, and those who were previously an officer in the services from 45 to 64.<br /><br />Given that Tam is a far better hand than I am with a pistol or rifle, I would support amending that bit to expand membership to include her and folks like her.<br /><br />Apologies if she is, and I just don't know enough about her to recognize that she is already covered by other provisions.Don Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06057058763094040058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-41150400241911643422011-03-01T17:26:43.513-05:002011-03-01T17:26:43.513-05:00Divemedic, that doesn't sound like a bad idea....Divemedic, that doesn't sound like a bad idea. <br /><br />-JoatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-8621733555263852402011-03-01T16:58:10.759-05:002011-03-01T16:58:10.759-05:00So are you saying that the Constitution doesn'...So are you saying that the Constitution doesn't apply to people who are receiving money from the government?<br /><br />If cashing a government paycheck negates my rights to assemble and petition, what other rights do I lose?<br />RKBA?<br />Right to a jury trial?<br />Right to due process?Divemedichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14583007051962299381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-47083106561131579322011-03-01T16:53:16.015-05:002011-03-01T16:53:16.015-05:00Amen Tam. Besides, if the NRA or AARP employees de...Amen Tam. Besides, if the NRA or AARP employees decide to go on strike the garbage is still gonna get picked up, criminals arrested, sewage treated and students taught.Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-83118096715859096312011-03-01T15:20:11.462-05:002011-03-01T15:20:11.462-05:00Divemedic,
Bad analogy. There's a difference ...Divemedic,<br /><br />Bad analogy. There's a difference between public and private sector employees and public and private sector unions. To use the two lobbying organizations you mentioned, the salaries and employment policies of the NRA and AARP personnel aren't paid by the people they lobby or campaign for.<br /><br />Although I will agree with P.J. O'Rourke's statement that "[w]hen buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators.".Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-71984631905391032032011-03-01T15:14:26.231-05:002011-03-01T15:14:26.231-05:00Anon 3:08,
That's half the source of the post...Anon 3:08,<br /><br />That's half the source of the post title, yes. ;)Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-5149298115281921842011-03-01T15:08:10.979-05:002011-03-01T15:08:10.979-05:00Corollary to the post's title:
Sooner or late...Corollary to the post's title:<br /><br /><i>Sooner or later you realize the pig is enjoying it.</i><br /><br />;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com