tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post4861905032592590331..comments2023-11-10T04:17:00.492-05:00Comments on View From The Porch: Oh. My. Gawd.Tamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comBlogger87125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-63053761346462910502012-12-23T21:53:49.779-05:002012-12-23T21:53:49.779-05:00Horseback riding is OK, but I recommend having onl...Horseback riding is OK, but I recommend having only sleepy old mares. I mind the time my Uncle Zed tried to saddle up a pony for us when I was a kid. That critter tried all of the mean pony tricks, like inhaling so he couldn't get the girth tight, offering to bite, usw. <br /><br />He finally got the saddle on, after kneeing the critter in the tummy and thwacking it some. He then offered me a ride. I declined.<br /><br /> I mind a gal I used to know who had a pony when she was a kid. She told me she had to stay on top of that pony's mind at all times; he was fond of wanting to run under horizontal tree limbs which were at just the exact height of his rider's head.Justthisguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17277333206171756636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-72911224280196141592012-12-23T20:46:30.536-05:002012-12-23T20:46:30.536-05:00I can sort of see the video game issue as valid......I can sort of see the video game issue as valid...not for any reason, other than anecdotal. My DD's 11th b-day party was at the local gun range. It's what she really wanted to do, and she invited 5 other kids. It became very clear, after a few moments, those kids who had real life experience handling guns, and those who only had video game experience. <br /><br />A good time was had by all, but boy, those kids with only video game experience came out of that birthday party stunned and shocked that there was such a difference between their xboxs and ps3s and the real guns they held. It was an eye opener for them, and their parents. Parents who, themselves, admitted they had no gun experience. It makes me wonder about kids who don't get that chance to be exposed to guns in a hands on, safe manner. If the only education they get about guns is from games and movies, does it make a difference? Yeah, I think maybe, it might.<br /><br />And in case anyone was wondering, my DD's birthday party was not only the most talked about party of the year, but the one that everyone is trolling to get an invite to next year. Only problem is, she's thinking horse back riding for the next one...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-82837220385595170142012-12-22T15:48:49.772-05:002012-12-22T15:48:49.772-05:00Yup, call them on it.
In a performance review gi...Yup, call them on it. <br /><br />In a performance review given directly to them. Performance reviews usually happen <em>inside</em> the building, after all.<br /><br />Outside the building, either ignore them or back them up. Don't help the haters hate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-18546173643179818752012-12-22T15:41:09.099-05:002012-12-22T15:41:09.099-05:00Listen turkeys, if your team does not have a good ...Listen turkeys, if your team does not have a good play book and keeps making bad plays you are right to boo them and hold them accountable. We have a lot at stake here and we need to connect to all of our gun owners, not just the old fat guys who can't hear crap.<br /><br />I have seen a wonderful change in the last 15 years in the makeup of folks at the gun range. There are women and young people and not very white people and these are our future. When the NRA sounds stupid and runs people off we have to call them on it.OldTexasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-62832897285265764152012-12-22T15:16:51.942-05:002012-12-22T15:16:51.942-05:00Tam,
Excellent. That's what we should say to ...Tam,<br /><br />Excellent. That's what we should say <i>to the NRA.</i> And keep saying it.<br /><br />But <i>in public</i>, would it be so hard to either ignore them or back their play? Because, you know, there are already plenty of people to criticize every single person on the pro-rights side of the conversation, and especially the eeevvvil NRA. <br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-47157972444222481632012-12-22T14:41:57.363-05:002012-12-22T14:41:57.363-05:00Wasn't it LaPierre's "Jack-Booted Thu...<b>Wasn't it LaPierre's "Jack-Booted Thug" comment about Ruby Ridge that solidified Bush the Elder's Anti-Gun Executive Order back about 20 years ago?</b><br /><br />No. If I am reading <a href="http://www.davekopel.com/2a/mags/george-bush-and-the-nra.htm" rel="nofollow">this</a> right, Bush the Elder had ALWAYS been anti-gun and only pandered to gun owners before the election to help his career.<br /><br />Sort of like Mitt Romney.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-21303440051691448082012-12-22T14:18:30.629-05:002012-12-22T14:18:30.629-05:00As a matter of fact, I just went and threw more mo...As a matter of fact, I just went and threw more money in the jar so I can vent even harder:<br /><br />"Dammit, if you waste this money on sending Wayne out there again looking like a stroke victim whose dog ate his homework, we're going to keep going by one and two years.<br /><br />Fire Wayne and find somebody who can deliver a speech that sounds like it was written in this century and I'll consider going Life. Until then, the difference goes to the SAF, because I'll need them to un-fuck your gaffes in court."Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-90935079416787270572012-12-22T14:09:51.281-05:002012-12-22T14:09:51.281-05:00Anonymouse 1:46,
"One of the depressing cons...Anonymouse 1:46,<br /><br />"<i>One of the depressing constants about this conversation is that we can always rely on pro-gun people to shoot at each other.</i>"<br /><br />So, now a performance review is "shooting at each other"?<br /><br />I am damned glad I don't work where you do!<br /><br />"No criticism of the leader! Just shut up and get out your checkbook! Whatever damn fool play he makes, you'd better not criticize it or you're a traitor!"<br /><br />Screw that.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-8195185210044309992012-12-22T13:46:37.238-05:002012-12-22T13:46:37.238-05:00One of the depressing constants about this convers...One of the depressing constants about this conversation is that we can always rely on pro-gun people to shoot at each other whenever there's a crisis.<br /><br />Meanwhile... http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/12/21/this-post-is-going-to-be-very-confusing-to-some-people/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-23238922816315570422012-12-22T11:10:24.463-05:002012-12-22T11:10:24.463-05:00On the good side, I finally joined SAF.On the good side, I finally joined SAF.Ted Nnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-60325313039943026712012-12-22T10:28:27.542-05:002012-12-22T10:28:27.542-05:00That comment on the ATF wasn't said by LaPierr...That comment on the ATF wasn't said by LaPierre; it was said by Rep. Dingell- a Democrat- on the floor of the house. Actually had a couple of things to say:<br /> "The consequences of the behavior of the BATF in these kinds of cases is that they are not trusted. They are detested, and I have described them properly as jackbooted American fascists. They have shown no concern over the rights of ordinary citizens or their property. They intrude without the slightest regard or concern.<br /><br />Now, if you want a more recent event, take a look at what they did in Waco, TX. Is that a defensible event? Scores of Americans were killed because of ineptitude by BATF acting under legal process, as they said, and that whole matter is going to be suppressed after scores of Americans have been killed because of the ineptitude and crass misbehavior of the BATF."<br /><br />and he also called ATF "... [a] jack-booted group of fascists who are perhaps as large a danger to American society as I could pick today." <br />The NRA quoted him in that letter, and has been blamed since for 'saying' it. The people bitching and whining don't want to mention- or don't know- who the letter quoted.Firehandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04562365951182027709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-52171251240808241562012-12-22T08:16:25.260-05:002012-12-22T08:16:25.260-05:00What a deal, my son and sons-in-law are gun guys a...What a deal, my son and sons-in-law are gun guys and in their 30's and 40's and they hear from a different perspective than an old guy in his late 60's. What I think might sound reasonable, kind of goofy but reasonable they hear as just plain stupid.<br /><br />The gun ranges finally have a lot of young people from all ethnic backgrounds burning up ammo and developing skills and our NRA President makes a speech that is directed at old fat guys like me over 60 years old and he missed on that.<br /><br />With the money the NRA has they need some good PR folks and new leadership since they came up to bat in the big game and struck out. So sorry but we needed solid hitting and they whiffed it.<br /><br />Nuff Said!OldTexannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-49244567969633857652012-12-22T02:16:50.664-05:002012-12-22T02:16:50.664-05:00I'm old enough to remember when mass murder of...I'm old enough to remember when mass murder of civilians was so absent from the media mainstream that it would never have crossed our minds, no matter how pissed off we might have been over some slight by a teacher or whomever. LaPierre isn't wrong about that. <br /><br />I knew a crack criminal defense attorney a few years ago, and in conversations with him I began to realize that a trial is essentially THEATER. Facts are secondary. And there's where the NRA has a BIG problem. As long as we had Charlton Heston, we had a chance, but old Wayne is about as well fitted for the role he needs to play as Don Knotts would be to play Winston Churchill. High pitched voice, no animation, no fire, no nothing. I could go on...The Old Coachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-23754703082953049832012-12-22T00:25:32.976-05:002012-12-22T00:25:32.976-05:00Egads how I loathe LaPierre! He is the main reason...Egads how I loathe LaPierre! He is the main reason I never joined the NRA until it was required in order for me to become a member of the range I now use. Dude screams slimy and his scare tactic robo call phone messages to drum up donations just confirm it. But he has at times been a decent orator; this was not one of those times.<br /><br />SERIOUSLY DUDE, your gonna use your time on the mic now to blame 25 year old movies and video games! I mean that wont make you look like a disconnected asshat or anything.<br /><br />Now the core program as described does sound like a whole lot more than anyone else is doing. Putting their resources into training volunteers and offering a comprehensive program free to all schools who want it whether they use the armed guard part or not is probably the best thing I have seen brought forward other than allowing teachers to ccw if they want and that can dovetail into this nicely.<br /><br /><br />and on a side note tam, can you enable gravatar? because I run wordpress on my own domain name it doesnt give me and open IDDan Crenshawhttp://www.titleundecided.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-58760526790738878972012-12-22T00:24:30.207-05:002012-12-22T00:24:30.207-05:00TSA for Tot. Damn.
Think of Gecko45 leading a bun...TSA for Tot. Damn.<br /><br />Think of Gecko45 leading a bunch of wal-mart greeter rejects. <br /><br />I would however, volunteer my time to patrol on of the local schools. Being retired I have plenty of time. Robert Fowlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03475193874676131196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-42783161513471415022012-12-22T00:07:24.347-05:002012-12-22T00:07:24.347-05:00Sigh. So my local school district, Zionsville, has...Sigh. So my local school district, Zionsville, has new 'security' procedures. The front doors are no longer unlocked from the outside. To get in, you have to call the front office and wait for them to come open it for you.<br /><br />Like someone said, it's what you do, instead of something.<br /><br />(Because once they open the door, there's still no-one to stop the gunman. And all they have to say is, 'I've got something to drop off for my kid.' And the doors? Mostly glass.)Noah Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-14790505876064866402012-12-21T23:43:27.456-05:002012-12-21T23:43:27.456-05:00That can be arranged. Hypothetically, of course. ...That can be arranged. Hypothetically, of course. As a thought experiment. lol. J/K. cough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-57601443907968087282012-12-21T22:38:15.685-05:002012-12-21T22:38:15.685-05:00A-mazing. I can always spot mistakes fourteen mic...A-mazing. I can always spot mistakes fourteen microseconds after hitting "publish" but not minutes before.<br />A-hem.<br />"2) What can we do to let NRA leadership publicly know that that response was a bunch idiotic bullshit we don't agree with?"<br /><br />Never mind the NRA leadership, how about the general public?<br /><br />But I do agree that "armed school staff" makes more sense than "Gun Free Zones."<br /><br />Does the average cop rolling up on a call from the school know the layout of the buildings? Entrances and exits? Who's supposed and not supposed to be there? The only people that know this are the people that are there every day.<br /><br />And how can we guard money, buildings etc. with guns but not our children? "The Most Precious Thing We Have" and we try to isolate them into a sterile environment in the middle of a cesspool and then disable the immune system? How could anyone think that Gun Free Zones could work without ANY tools (pepper spray, Tazer, SOMETHING) so that teachers don't have to run against a nutcase with a rifle bare-handed? (And bless them 'cause they DID!)<br /><br />Can you tell who is the grumpy grandpa with the elementary school-aged grandkids?rickn8orhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911803300343351338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-46977855939683189662012-12-21T22:05:00.770-05:002012-12-21T22:05:00.770-05:00I always liked Neil Knox better than that sleazy e...I always liked Neil Knox better than that sleazy equivocating politican LaPierre. <br /><br />I have exchanged email with his son, Jeff Knox, comparing our different kinds of neural divergence. Yup, he's one, too.<br /><br />Mr. LaPierre is such an annoyingly normal neurotypical politician that, well, I can't really take him seriously anymore.<br /><br />Knox had principles, and stuck to them.Justthisguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17277333206171756636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-74989736877293369432012-12-21T21:02:00.961-05:002012-12-21T21:02:00.961-05:00Trying to make sense out of all this as I did not ...Trying to make sense out of all this as I did not see it. My take is that no one, not even the gunnies here, is going to take the NRA seriously about video games, movies or mental health and they know it. It was distraction to get people talking about other stuff. As for style points, spending 5 minutes on their web page should tell you this. However, people do take them seriously about guns and security and politics. Like them or hate them, people do take them seriously. Thus I see the core of the message as cops in schools and an end to gun free zones. (I don't worry about federalizing the cops because that train has already left. Where do you thing the funding for the existing school resource officers came from.) Put the two together with budget problems and it could open the door to armed school staff, the real first responders. That is down the road but remember how incremental CCW reform was. State by state and then gradual improvement of the rules. <br /><br />I am by no means an NRA loyalist. I am a long term member and send money to the ILA but was planning on going over to the SAF because I was so hacked off about them endorsing a gun controller for President. Since they have apparently decided to fight, that is feeling like desertion in the face of the enemy. I think what I will do is re-up my membership and send the ILA money to the SAF and wait and see. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-18229634732348621062012-12-21T20:56:07.437-05:002012-12-21T20:56:07.437-05:00I think it may be time to wonder if Wayne LaPierre...I think it may be time to wonder if Wayne LaPierre is actually working for the other side.<br /><br />Could anybody be more tone deaf, less competent, and inept, who wasn't actually trying?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-4610274339465861462012-12-21T19:36:59.036-05:002012-12-21T19:36:59.036-05:00In these situations, there's a lot to be said ...In these situations, there's a lot to be said for the classic lawyer penned dull press release read in a stilted, lifeless manner.Joe in PNGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-87453877682950551772012-12-21T19:10:40.536-05:002012-12-21T19:10:40.536-05:00Anonymous at 6:44, my Grandma used to say the very...Anonymous at 6:44, my Grandma used to say the very same thing.Greg in Allstonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-91884798872412407732012-12-21T18:44:18.652-05:002012-12-21T18:44:18.652-05:00To paraphrase everyone's grandmother,
"If...To paraphrase everyone's grandmother,<br />"If you can't think of something to say that isn't lame, inane, creepy, counterproductive, and Dada-esque, don't say anything at all."<br /><br />Alath<br />Carmel INAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-81629854672263372252012-12-21T18:38:01.966-05:002012-12-21T18:38:01.966-05:00TJIC,
I am going to pretend that's what happe...TJIC,<br /><br />I am going to pretend that's what happened, purely in the interest of my digestive health. :DTamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.com