tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post500400389686643242..comments2023-11-10T04:17:00.492-05:00Comments on View From The Porch: The thing that surprised me most...Tamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-89596053172475841612013-01-22T16:38:55.571-05:002013-01-22T16:38:55.571-05:00Staghounds
What sort of idiot doesn't unload ...<i><b>Staghounds</b></i><br /><br /><i>What sort of idiot doesn't unload the gun at home? Or if it's a carry gun, leave it in the car?</i><br /><br />Um, as Tam said, "Me."<br /><br />I prefer:<br /><br />A. Not to be disarmed to and from the gun show, and while carrying out my daily business during said outing. (Live in a rural area -- nearest gunshow is 30 minutes; nearest <i>good</i> gunshow is over an hour -- I plan on doing as many of my weekend errands in one trip as possible. Don't have enough Obama Pesos to fuel up the car for onesie-and-twosie trips into town for single items.)<br /><br />2. I'd <i><b>really</b></i> rather not leave my gun in the car to be stolen while I'm in the show. Not necessary to be Sherlock Holmes to figure the percentage of cars with guns in them at a gun show is higher than the parking lot of Trader Joes.<br /><br />Of course, on gun show days, that means I tend to default to a wheel gun, and I generally unload/load in the car. I have yet to run across an ND while loading or clearing a K-frame, although I'm sure they happen. But it is simply <i>harder</i> to screw up loading/unloading so badly you blow a hole in your floorboards or foot with a swing-out DA revolver than any slide gun I can think of.Geodkythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17340718574781403778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-32615630752109693442013-01-21T21:05:20.044-05:002013-01-21T21:05:20.044-05:00In Cow (NH) Hampshire. I Have only been to a few G...In Cow (NH) Hampshire. I Have only been to a few Gun shows here. But to Have hundreds, or potentially thousands of people clearing and loading firearms Sounds like trouble! Never asked to ever. The only signs see at gunstores ask to keep loaded weapons in the holster.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-11679257598248380922013-01-21T20:09:39.402-05:002013-01-21T20:09:39.402-05:00Mine do! Appleseed instruction too! All at a schoo...Mine do! Appleseed instruction too! All at a school where the teachers carry. (no, im not a politician, I'm a home schooling parent)excitedVulcanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03515573935012370027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-10723948871117027162013-01-21T13:37:58.465-05:002013-01-21T13:37:58.465-05:00Drang,
I was thinking a clearing barrel and membe...Drang,<br /><br />I was thinking a clearing barrel and membership/donation table outside the show in addition on to the one inside.<br /><br /><br />Maybe a big banner with the "4 Rules" in large letters with a "Have you cleared your firearm yet?"<br /><br />Get two bites at the apple and an easy to film (outside away from the crush) safety photo op for the press.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05414687981098467556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-47646552887810800352013-01-21T13:19:03.129-05:002013-01-21T13:19:03.129-05:00Fuzzy Curmudgeon @7:05 "Three gun shows, thre...Fuzzy Curmudgeon @7:05 <i>"Three gun shows, three NDs."</i><br />How many gun shows this weekend had no ND?<br /><br />Matthew @10:49: <i>"Seems like a grassroots SAF/NRA membership opening."</i><br />SAF and NRA both have tables at my local show, and there's a significant amount of overlap between SAF and the Washington Arms Collectors. I suppose it's understandable, being as how SAF is in Bellevue, and the shows are in Puyallup.<br />I suggested to SAF that they add a second banner to their table, with Alan Gura's photo and the tagline "Help Alan defend your rights!"<br />We'll see...<br />There is a portable clearing barrel at the entrance to the show, but no suitable reloading area short of standing right outside the building, which is watched by show security. OTOH, the show is held in a decent area. Dranghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08082177597135236652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-80110816813028167382013-01-21T12:50:48.828-05:002013-01-21T12:50:48.828-05:00Went to H&H here in OKC this morning with the ...Went to H&H here in OKC this morning with the idea of shooting. Got there about 9:20, and there was already a line to CHECK IN, with what looked like almost all lanes already busy. Holiday Monday.<br /><br />I'll note, it was a scene that would make Sarah Brady need new Depends: men, women, kids, and more than one color of people, all either making noises or waiting their turn.<br /><br />As for .22 ammo, unless you get to the store right after the delivery, forget it.Firehandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04562365951182027709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-68705194241190213782013-01-21T12:45:32.190-05:002013-01-21T12:45:32.190-05:00cj,
"Last one was, I think, someone who sold...cj,<br /><br />"<i>Last one was, I think, someone who sold it loaded whereupon purchaser for some reason decided to test it out by pulling the trigger.</i>"<br /><br />No, the one in Indy happened when the guy was leaving and either reloading or reholstering his gat. Put a .45 right through his hand.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-39456395233241004302013-01-21T12:31:05.165-05:002013-01-21T12:31:05.165-05:00Note that the media was all excited to report 3 in...Note that the media was all excited to report 3 incidents at gun shows this past weekend where people managed to set off guns at shows. One was while trying to unload the shotgun, one was a dufus who brought a loaded one in anyway and ended up shooting his partner. Last one was, I think, someone who sold it loaded whereupon purchaser for some reason decided to test it out by pulling the trigger.<br /><br />Best thing we could do for this country is TEACH PEOPLE about safe firearms handling.<br /><br />And on similar pricing note, commented at my favorite fun store that the $950 price tag on an SU-16 was a bit...optimistic. It was a consignment and they indicated they told the seller the same thing, but he'd insisted.<br />cjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-55815268938526744392013-01-21T11:53:04.678-05:002013-01-21T11:53:04.678-05:00Tam's right. Unless it's State Fair time,...Tam's right. Unless it's State Fair time, that's one of the most rotten neighborhoods in town.Fuzzy Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802539927743643041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-6608129653307330222013-01-21T10:23:41.342-05:002013-01-21T10:23:41.342-05:00staghounds,
An idiot like me.
Yesterday I had to...staghounds,<br /><br />An idiot like me.<br /><br />Yesterday I had to park in the infield of the horse track at the fairgrounds, leave my car unattended, walk alone across the infield and through the tunnel under the track, and then across half the fairgrounds to the building where the show was being held, and then back to the car, in a neighborhood where the convenience store across the street has seen more shootings in the last two years than most small towns see in a decade.<br /><br />I carried my gun.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-63612462331267907422013-01-21T10:06:04.194-05:002013-01-21T10:06:04.194-05:00What sort of idiot doesn't unload the gun at h...What sort of idiot doesn't unload the gun at home? Or if it's a carry gun, leave it in the car?staghoundshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05976667812875074135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-18628139413245522872013-01-21T09:13:15.190-05:002013-01-21T09:13:15.190-05:00I went shooting this weekend.
Indoor range.
Wait...I went shooting this weekend.<br /><br />Indoor range.<br /><br />Wait was an hour.<br /><br />22 long rifle was available in boxes.<br /><br />223 and 762x39 only available for on premise consumption with the rentals or if you brought your own heater...you could purchase 300 rounds if so.<br /><br />For take home, required purchase of a platform they only had one of...a sad, lonely, Mini 14 Ranch rifle.<br /><br />No Blocks. Block Magazines were 50 per copy and I saw several folks buying.<br /><br />One M&P 9mm and one in 22.<br /><br />Halfway through my wait, I overheard the clerks advising that wait times were going to be well over an hour to newcomers, and the crowd had increased.<br /><br />I rediscovered I'm still better SouthPaw with Ruger Six series revolvers.<br /><br />I shot easily half a brick of 22.<br /><br />Note to self...need cart to haul heaters to firing range...5 items with any amount of ammunition isn't light.<br />Pakkinpoppanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-58912610086878418062013-01-21T08:00:18.277-05:002013-01-21T08:00:18.277-05:00The gun show has normally been the extreme example...The gun show has normally been the extreme example of the fact that you can be in a nut to butt crowd and still manage to be polite. More hey how ya doin's and friendly nods and sincere apologies for stomping on my feet than normally had.<br /><br />More "Excuse me sir, and less just shoving through. I hate to sound like the new guy complaining it's just not like it used to be when I started going just a year ago, but there were three or four times I was seriously irritated by people there. I like crowds, I think it's fun. But one guy twigged me twice and the second time I almost grabbed him by the backpack strap and had a talk with him. If you are going to wear a backpack, you can't slip through crowds at a near running pace and just place yourself where you want to end up without looking at who was already there.<br /><br />As for the number of women at the show, once again not only were there more, but they skew younger. I brought my oldest, she is ahead of me since her permit is "in the mail" and she's looking for a .38 special. Didn't have the $500 it took to get one this weekend though.<br /><br />I also noticed many more minorities at this one. So it's amazing to hear on the news Saturday night how many people are against guns and how fringe and weird we all are. I can't figure out which side is in the echo chamber now. Woodmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17258502914515356626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-24216908521649176412013-01-21T03:18:32.242-05:002013-01-21T03:18:32.242-05:00I have noticed around Ohio a lot of new faces at t...I have noticed around Ohio a lot of new faces at the shows. A lot of the "seasoned" patrons seem to be sitting out for a while. Many of these new guys seem to be lacking in etiquette. I watched one Oompa Loompa who hurried to cut in front of me with his entourage effectively blocking the whole table with the seller feet away, pick up a Ruger SP101 in .357 linked to the table via cable, and proceed to dry fire the thing toward the crowd beside him 5 or six times and then give the seller a dirty look when she told him not to do that. It seems like this current panic is an excuse to behave rudely. Craig M.http://brokenpatriot.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-14593023730421145632013-01-21T02:43:22.175-05:002013-01-21T02:43:22.175-05:00Obviously we've never attended the same, or yo...Obviously we've never attended the same, or you'd have been waiting for me or me for you - I do the same thing.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00391535113209714025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-38088282835123008742013-01-21T01:42:37.838-05:002013-01-21T01:42:37.838-05:00This sounds like it might be a market opportunity ...This sounds like it might be a market opportunity - providing "clearing barrel" facilities to various venues, so people can clear their weapon while pointing it into a barrel of sand, instead of at a brick wall.<br /><br />Gun shows aren't the only ones who insist on disarmed vic-... err patrons, and I can see that a trash can with the right paint job could be just the thing to appeal to the yuppie crowd, and to reassure the soccer moms.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-54136124486689731582013-01-21T00:03:17.465-05:002013-01-21T00:03:17.465-05:00Speaking of loading/unloading your carry gun...we ...Speaking of loading/unloading your carry gun...we (a few other "old" retired .mil guys) usually just keep it muzzle down towards the dirt. Yeah, being in FL means pretty much where we live is the top of a really big sandbag, but it works for us. Bilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-44733224657704149172013-01-20T23:45:05.575-05:002013-01-20T23:45:05.575-05:00Are clearing barrels really that expensive?
Or is...Are clearing barrels really that expensive?<br /><br />Or is this one of those things where (in the ambulance chaser's arguement) the show would be "accepting responsibility for ND" by providing clearing barrels?Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16207808793722026516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-42597844465158808612013-01-20T22:49:28.116-05:002013-01-20T22:49:28.116-05:00Seems like a grassroots SAF/NRA membership opening...Seems like a grassroots SAF/NRA membership opening. Set up outside with a nice clearing barrel and a table with a "suggested donation - membership or sponsorship" sign.<br /><br />Though the potential liability sign just popped up in my head.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05414687981098467556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-40132810568907948002013-01-20T22:18:55.469-05:002013-01-20T22:18:55.469-05:00At a gun show in Colorado today. Crowded, people ...At a gun show in Colorado today. Crowded, people there serious, and fatalistic. Mags outrageous. FN FAL surplus mags running from $25-70. New higher. NO bulk 5.56 Nato, limited bulk 7.62 Nato and 7.62 x 39. Absolutely NO .22LR bricks. A lot of AR-15 clones. Everybody more concerned with the care and feeding of what they have, rather than buying new long guns. <br /><br />Got the mags I wanted, and 7.62 Nato. No 5.56, but set up with a dealer to buy at his shop later. Really wanted the .22LR for teaching beginning shooters.<br /><br />Reloading components getting rare and expensive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-66193990116675629602013-01-20T21:38:41.904-05:002013-01-20T21:38:41.904-05:00I don't get to go very often, but the 'cri...I don't get to go very often, but the 'critters' are interesting.<br />We usually count the number of women (ever increasing :-P) and the number of really large guys in overalls (thankfully less).<br />More points if they resemble ZZ Top.<br /><br />gfa<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-70637137436388940742013-01-20T20:21:24.871-05:002013-01-20T20:21:24.871-05:00I suppose there is an up side on one of them. If a...<br />I suppose there is an up side on one of them. If anyone had to get shot by an "unloaded" gun at least it was the partner of the guy who unloaded it.Woodmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17258502914515356626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-77812658248735514232013-01-20T19:48:25.737-05:002013-01-20T19:48:25.737-05:00Three gun shows, three NDs.
And all of them preve...Three gun shows, <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323968304578252503696275508.html?mod=WSJ_hps_sections_news" rel="nofollow">three NDs.</a><br /><br />And all of them preventable if people would just follow the stinkin' Rules.Fuzzy Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802539927743643041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-23203431841795480672013-01-20T19:41:41.220-05:002013-01-20T19:41:41.220-05:00Darrell,
"The only reason I'd go to a gu...Darrell,<br /><br />"<i>The only reason I'd go to a gun show nowadays would be to watch the critters...</i>" <br /><br />...and for good prices on ammo, and to get to deals on old and rare guns that you generally won't find at your LGS, and for good accessories deals, and...Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-74305733817447306332013-01-20T19:35:29.575-05:002013-01-20T19:35:29.575-05:00The only reason I'd go to a gun show nowadays ...The only reason I'd go to a gun show nowadays would be to watch the critters, like going to the zoo. Heck, I'd rather go to the zoo.Darrellnoreply@blogger.com