tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post5298610263808489705..comments2023-11-10T04:17:00.492-05:00Comments on View From The Porch: A modest proposal:Tamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comBlogger105125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-61079098646469306452011-04-05T21:52:16.939-04:002011-04-05T21:52:16.939-04:00Would you sell it at the Alcohol, Tobacco and Fire...Would you sell it at the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms Convenience Market? You know, on a rack next to the register, alongside the lottery tickets?<br /><br />Or perhaps the condoms? "Don't forget your protection!" LOLThe Freeholderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09989697995675652792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-79177640069593309482011-04-05T14:30:43.631-04:002011-04-05T14:30:43.631-04:00@perlhaqr:
Thanks! It's been ages since Iast...@perlhaqr:<br /><br />Thanks! It's been ages since Iast dicked around with HTML to any non-trivial degree. <br /><br />As to the switch, you could always use a reed switch or a hall switch and put a magnet in the holster. It would be easy to mould, and is probably cheaper than machining a switch. <br /><br />It's unlikely to interfere with intended operation, too, unless you're trying to defend yourself from a medieval knight in a thunderstorm, in which case yoi've probably already got a sword on you.Fodder4Thoughtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-33099989794472949922011-04-05T12:57:16.060-04:002011-04-05T12:57:16.060-04:00North: I'll admit the idea is less to preserve...North: I'll admit the idea is less to preserve the battery life than it is to make a simple and easy "on" switch that the owner wouldn't need to think about or train with - the gun would automatically arm itself and activate all features when drawn, with no user controls needed beyond the trigger. Once it's been drawn, it will need to be replaced - since it's marketed as a single use item that fits the idea as well. Physically blocking the battery connection this way would also work as a hedge against design or manufacturing defects that may cause an unintended draw on the battery before it's used.<br /><br />An alternative would be a tab in the holster that fits into a slot on the gun and actuates a switch to have the same effect. This would also allow it to be disarmed when the owner re-holsters it, too. Place it right, and you can avoid "trigger on finger while reholstering" NDs, too - which also fits with the gun's purpose as a tool for the untrained.Jake (formerly Riposte3)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02976718318892210404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-8749327888575009962011-04-05T12:41:03.810-04:002011-04-05T12:41:03.810-04:00OK, if everyone here puts in $100 we could have a ...OK, if everyone here puts in $100 we could have a patent drawn up and a prototype built in 30 days.sobriant74https://www.blogger.com/profile/02419780237703409179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-33159862158178901232011-04-05T11:29:49.214-04:002011-04-05T11:29:49.214-04:00"You know how toys and some other gizmos will..."You know how toys and some other gizmos will have a strip of plastic between the battery and the contacts, so that you pull the strip out through a slot in the battery cover before you can use it?"<br /><br />An unused battery setting on a shelf will self-discharge - even when connected to nothing.<br /><br />A properly designed circuit will not need this strip of plastic - there would be nothing connected to the battery that would draw power anyway.<br /><br />Battery life in this device would be equal to shelf life of the battery.Northhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12778737553770514684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-56228014473061630982011-04-05T11:24:42.480-04:002011-04-05T11:24:42.480-04:00On the battery issue:
First, sell the gun in a ky...On the battery issue:<br /><br />First, sell the gun in a kydex holster, with interchangeable attachments for IWB or OWB carry.<br /><br />You know how toys and some other gizmos will have a strip of plastic between the battery and the contacts, so that you pull the strip out through a slot in the battery cover before you can use it? Use the same setup with the gun's battery, and attach the strip to the holster.<br /><br />When you draw the gun from the holster, the strip stays with the holster and that allows the battery to connect. This also starts an audio and video recorder (with a wide angle lens aligned with the barrel) and turns on the integral laser sight.<br /><br />The recording can only be retrieved by the manufacturer. A copy is provided to both the police and the owner (or his defense attorney), to prevent any "faulty" video excuses by the police. The manufacturer also keeps a copy on file as a neutral party in the case, since their only interest is that the recorder worked and not what it shows.<br /><br />GPS, an automatic 911 caller, and indelible dye can be offered as options.Jake (formerly Riposte3)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02976718318892210404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-62644270852646795302011-04-05T11:03:24.151-04:002011-04-05T11:03:24.151-04:00Fodder4Thought: HTML is whitespace insensitive.
Y...Fodder4Thought: HTML is whitespace insensitive.<br /><br />You needed a 'pre' tag, which probably isn't available here, or to replace every space with an & nbsp ; (no spaces.) :)perlhaqrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920117742664645165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-90174758119120154752011-04-05T10:52:38.739-04:002011-04-05T10:52:38.739-04:00I believe John Barnes proposed something much like...I believe John Barnes proposed something much like this in his novel "Mother of Storms."<br /><br />IIRC, Barnes called his version the "Self-Defender," which in the novel was sold at just about any American convienence store. It fired a small-caliber, high velocity round, sent a radio signal to the nearest police station at the moment it was fired and stained the shooter's hand with a non-soluble dye at the same time, limiting the Self-Defender's utility as a crime weapon.<br /><br />Otherwise, it was a lot like Tam's proposed gun.<br /><br />--Wes S.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-33640962937077400442011-04-05T10:36:18.383-04:002011-04-05T10:36:18.383-04:00Hu. I'd be interested in five or so. Three t...Hu. I'd be interested in five or so. Three to shoot, one for each car.<br /><br />One has to touch their handgun too much to use a "car holster". From an IWB at 3:30 or 4:00, it's a bit slow to present while buckled in.<br /><br />But one of these attached some place convenient, and it's the perfect solution for a gun to use while inside the car.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-70175427363077502612011-04-05T10:27:46.923-04:002011-04-05T10:27:46.923-04:00ToddG,
"SIG's current CEO proposed this ...ToddG,<br /><br />"<i>SIG's current CEO proposed this very thing (a single use, single-mag super cheap pistol) within the first months of his stewardship.</i>"<br /><br />Even a blind pig sometimes finds an acorn. ;)Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-43821988158811130342011-04-05T10:15:07.162-04:002011-04-05T10:15:07.162-04:00DAO Revolver, bottom cylinder fires.
No cylinder...DAO Revolver, bottom cylinder fires. <br /><br />No cylinder release.<br /><br />Block the front so the only place the bullet doesn't have a structure in front of it is the barrel.<br /><br />Casless rounds, with the propellant in a squared format, so even if you cut away the forward cylinder block, you can't reload easily.<br /><br />Anyone who could reload it could make a SMG more easily.Geodkythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09328915597574377444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-72402105247870826982011-04-05T08:21:28.992-04:002011-04-05T08:21:28.992-04:00SIG's current CEO proposed this very thing (a ...SIG's current CEO proposed this very thing (a single use, single-mag super cheap pistol) within the first months of his stewardship.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-2962004469070577842011-04-05T04:23:51.715-04:002011-04-05T04:23:51.715-04:00Let me know when you have it ready for prime time....Let me know when you have it ready for prime time. I'll show everyone how to run a vending route!John Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04875185117306503147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-17008329181893672532011-04-05T03:15:50.684-04:002011-04-05T03:15:50.684-04:00Plastic, single shot, and non-reloadable, folded u...Plastic, single shot, and non-reloadable, folded up like a small leatherman knife.<br /><br />You unfold it into a 90 degree angled pistol shape to fire it ( this is needed to avoid getting slapped with an AOW tag ).Kristophrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08370888276707569365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-28553603161532084142011-04-05T02:22:52.395-04:002011-04-05T02:22:52.395-04:00.41 rimfire? No, RF has too many feeding problems....41 rimfire? No, RF has too many feeding problems. It's time, Tam, for the return of the .35 S&W!<br /><br />AntibubbaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-39740306704663493802011-04-05T00:51:40.509-04:002011-04-05T00:51:40.509-04:00Remember the four-barreled COP pistol?
It was int...Remember the four-barreled COP pistol?<br /><br />It was intended as a backup arm for duty officers, but had such an abysmal trigger, horrid quality and reliablity, and absolutely non-existant customer support.<br /><br />Not to mention it's virtually unconcealable bulk and heft.<br /><br />Otherwise, it's a pretty damn good physical format for your concept. <br /><br />Maybe make a seven barreled pattern "six around one", all as "fire once" integrated chambers and bores.<br /><br />Rifling need not be precise. Simple thin steel rolled over a rifled mandrel, then the lot of them cast into polymer. Bet it'd be strong enough for one shot each.<br /><br />Celebrity endorsements? The mind boggles at the possibilities!<br /><br /><br />Jim<br />Sunk New Dawn<br />Galveston, TXJimhttp://smokeonthewater.typepad.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-92055355220465201972011-04-04T22:37:53.624-04:002011-04-04T22:37:53.624-04:00@Me:
Damnation. I don't know why, but the am...@Me:<br /><br />Damnation. I don't know why, but the amazingly detailed ASCII art I spent many hours on and can never reproduce didn't come through properly.<br /><br />It was beautiful enough to make grown men weep, trust me.<br /><br />The slashes were about 3/4 the way down the tube, and when rotated the rightmost section swung down to form a more traditional gun shape.<br /><br />WV - dangst: When you're hormonal and bummed, but also kind of pissed at something.Fodder4Thoughtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-58882089850473544052011-04-04T22:29:44.444-04:002011-04-04T22:29:44.444-04:00What I'm picturing is as follows.
Initially a...What I'm picturing is as follows.<br /><br />Initially a straight walled tube:<br /><br /> ------------------------------<br />| / |<br />| / |<br /> ------------------------------<br /><br /><br />The portion to the left of the slashes contains the barrel, projectiles, powder, ignition circuitry and whatever lighting/recording/etc stuff one wants, in addition to whatever stupid bullet-tracking methods one wants.<br /><br />The portion to the right of the slashes contains the power source, the charging circuitry, the trigger, etc.<br /><br />The slashes themselves represent a swivel point. Bear with me, please, because:<br /><br />A) It's hard to describe, and<br />B) I'm not very smart.<br /><br />Rotating the right-most portion of the tube will change the straight-walled tube to this:<br /><br /> --------------------<br />| \<br />| \<br /> ----------------\ \<br /> \ \<br /> \ \<br /> \ \<br /> \ \<br /> ------<br /><br />I apologize for the cut-rate ASCII art.<br /><br />Rotating the cylinder from configuration 1 to configuration 2 would 'arm' the weapon (and start whatever attendant processes one wishes, whether recording, lasing, or whatever), making it ready to fire whenever the trigger mechanism is activated. Since the gun is fired electronically, there's no real reason for a traditional trigger - a button will do just fine, and electrical switches are much easier to hide than mechanical ones.<br /><br />As to power, if the gun is to do nothing else but shoot (God forbid), then a piezoelectric trigger is probably fine, but it can't be so stiff that the elderly/infirm have trouble actuating it. Using a small dynamo would probably work, but I expect is too expensive to really be viable for this application.<br /><br />If the gun is to do anything else (like have a laser, a light, recording capabilities, RF transmitting abilities, etc) then a more traditional power source is necessary. For those who crave true long-term storage capability, perhaps a beta-voltaic cell?<br /><br />As an aside, I think that if one wants to add recording functionality, the best way to go is similar to what some police officers are using now. The camera is constantly recording to a buffer but not permanent storage, and when the officer wants to start recording something, he presses the button and the past 30 seconds are transferred from the buffer to permanent storage and the camera records as normal from that point on.Fodder4Thoughtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-78609286851723929782011-04-04T21:44:24.713-04:002011-04-04T21:44:24.713-04:00Roberta: The piezoelectric 'ignition' is a...Roberta: The piezoelectric 'ignition' is a valid source for firing power. But if (IF) you need to rely on a small microcontroller to perform any sequencing then given today's pico current draw in standby, a single AA-class battery or equivalent in Lithium would be fine. The current draw of an idle microcontroller is near the shelf leakage of a battery anyway. The micro only 'wakes up' for the few milliseconds after fire.Northhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12778737553770514684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-83514546400505597742011-04-04T21:39:28.346-04:002011-04-04T21:39:28.346-04:00Great idea.
The ChiCaps will have knockoffs onli...Great idea. <br /><br />The ChiCaps will have knockoffs online by sundown at $8.88.<br /><br />ATAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-18821847641695062612011-04-04T21:36:58.197-04:002011-04-04T21:36:58.197-04:00Black powder would likely not be usable - the stuf...Black powder would likely not be usable - the stuff doesn't store well (being both hygroscopic and prone to disassociating - when stored in the magazines you had a schedule of rotation of the barrels containing the stuff). Best to use smokeless powder. Put a membrane over the barrel and seal the rest of it. Use caseless - you don't care about the heat-sink effect of tossing the brass overboard. As long as it doesn't melt before the user can let go, you're good.Ian Argenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03704336044732061128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-30200604990676466732011-04-04T21:36:38.015-04:002011-04-04T21:36:38.015-04:00Piezoelecytric ignition is the way to go, no shelf...Piezoelecytric ignition is the way to go, no shelf-life issues.<br /><br /> It's just a pity you couldn't make any money selling them out of armored vending machines in civilian-disarmament zones, machines with "THE RIGHT TO OWN WEAPONS IS THE RIGHT TO BE FREE" blazoned across the front.<br /><br /> It's like for the Liberator to return.Roberta Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09956807794520627885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-47135416737554742502011-04-04T21:15:38.083-04:002011-04-04T21:15:38.083-04:00Would rifling the projectile help with keeping cos...Would rifling the projectile help with keeping costs down (smoothbore barrel) and stability?<br /><br />I don't know the velocity requirements involved.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05414687981098467556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-35247757245128774112011-04-04T21:03:15.553-04:002011-04-04T21:03:15.553-04:00Sorry about the segue there. Actually, if I'm ...Sorry about the segue there. Actually, if I'm using ceramic bullets I could just put the powder charge and primer inside the projo, a la Volcanic pistol, and let the hollowbase bullets badminton birdie their way to the target.<br /><br /> The bolt wraps around the back of the barrel like an Uzi/Skorpion, sealing the magazine from flashover created by the fired caseless cartridge. All made in metric dimensions with ceramic purchased in France. <br /><br /> It just gets better and better.<br /><br /> Swear to God, VW is jacal.Ed Fosternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-82594289422668959102011-04-04T20:42:39.924-04:002011-04-04T20:42:39.924-04:00North and Tam: The CIA used to make a disposable ....North and Tam: The CIA used to make a disposable .32acp out of paper mache reenforced with fiberglass strands. It was water soluable after you took a key or penknife to the varnished exterior, leaving nothing but a rusty sashweight and a nondescript spring.<br /><br /> Nothing much for accuracy, as the smoothbore barrel eroded more with each shot, but at the distances planned for it's use I don't think it mattered much. <br /><br /> Lets see, if we substituted ceramic for the material in the slamfire bolt, and used a pneumatic cylinder made from plastic to cycle the bolt, some of those plastic cases Speer used to sell for their primer activated plastic bullet load, and plastic coated ceramic bullets, then had it carried through the airport clanger by a female companion in burka.....<br /><br /> Also, I really want somebody to bring back the .41 Swiss rimfire cartridge. A Ruger .44 Mag kind of carbine with a ballistically better 330 grain bullet at 1900 fps, cheap ammo, and a simple delayed blowback action. <br /><br /> Not bleeding likely, but a really handy $300 deer rifle so profitable it might bring WallyWorld back into the gun business.<br /><br /> Pardon me, I lost my Ritalin.Ed Fosternoreply@blogger.com