tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post664669893808604149..comments2023-11-10T04:17:00.492-05:00Comments on View From The Porch: The ingredients of gun school...Tamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-79107293526672555662010-12-31T01:17:40.753-05:002010-12-31T01:17:40.753-05:00I bring enough mags to last all day (usually 25-30...I bring enough mags to last all day (usually 25-30 AR mags, and 10-15 pistol mags). If you can't do that, a LULA works wonders for not chewing up your thumb stuffing mags. I usually have at least 5 mags on my person at all times. I run a chest rig for carbine classes to hold extra mags, and back feed my primary belt pouches.<br />I run a 3 liter Camel-Bak for hydration, and fill it up every time I am off the line. 50/50 Gatorade G2/water mix.<br />Worked like a charm at one late Sept. Eloy AZ class with a ground temp reading of 132.Unknownsailorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10384464603647986681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-61030969006042813592010-12-30T06:43:28.941-05:002010-12-30T06:43:28.941-05:00"I also put 30+ rounds in my strong side fron..."<i>I also put 30+ rounds in my strong side front pocket, to top off magazines during breaks on firing line. I didn't find it hard to pay attention while reloading.</i>"<br /><br />Well, yeah, I'd do that too, but the difference is, you're just casually topping up some partial mags, not thinking "<i>Oh God, I gotta get these two mags loaded before he stops talking or I'm not gonna be able to shoot!</i>"Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-12847471676123594432010-12-29T21:10:12.956-05:002010-12-29T21:10:12.956-05:00I've gone through 2- and 3-day pistol and carb...I've gone through 2- and 3-day pistol and carbine classes. Every time, there have been two relays. I brought 6 quarts of Gatorade/Powerade each day. I also had snacks to eat while the other relay was on the firing line.<br /><br />As for magazines, I had at least five for my Glock, two on the belt and the others stowed in the weak-side cargo pocket. Reloads were done with the mags on the belt. The empty or partially empty mags moved to the weak-side front pocket and a full mag was moved from the cargo pocket to the belt. When my relay was shooting, I never had to use more than two reloads before a short break, allowing me to reallocate magazines.<br /><br />I also put 30+ rounds in my strong side front pocket, to top off magazines during breaks on firing line. I didn't find it hard to pay attention while reloading.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-19951468605739859242010-12-28T14:31:16.109-05:002010-12-28T14:31:16.109-05:00Being more than a little bit wise-ass myself I can...Being more than a little bit wise-ass myself I can see appreciate the impulse. <br />I'm good at using bottles/canteens - and keeping track of consumption/remaining water as I noted is far easier, but like many, Bride is used to them from biking and it worked well for her. <br />As an NCO, we had to keep track of our folks consumption - at 29 Palms the rule was "eight canteens a day per man". <br />Camelbacks - like so many other things were like manna from heaven back in the day, but we learned the downside of a lot of "cool-guy gear"; like the friend who had his drinking tube leak all over his uniform just before insertion on a cold-weather exercise; changing into dry gear in the back of a -130 doing nap-of-the-earth is still better than freezing to death - but your friends will rag you about it for the rest of your life...Boat Guynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-29414596847171604692010-12-28T13:49:02.842-05:002010-12-28T13:49:02.842-05:00And remember, light colored clothes reflect heat, ...And remember, light colored clothes reflect heat, dark colors absorb it.<br /><br />Nothing like broiling your brain under a black GSSF hat to make a day in class unforgettable.GuardDuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08622236339096746029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-33627885253887182942010-12-28T12:50:29.404-05:002010-12-28T12:50:29.404-05:00+1 on Camelbaks. It's part of my standard kit...+1 on Camelbaks. It's part of my standard kit for any outside activity.<br /><br />Hint for hot days: fill it 1/4 to 1/2 the night before, lay it flat in the freezer (keep water clear of the valve of the bladder). Next morning fill the rest up. Cool water all day. <br /><br /> One local carbine course I took had us loading random number of rounds (3-15) into our mags and then having the instructor loading them into our mag pouches when our eyes were closed. So that we could get used to random stoppages and reloads.<br /><br />So do check the course content ahead of time. Stripping live rounds and keeping them corralled on a picnic table is much more of a pain than loading up (since my ammo is kept on stripper clips).Randynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-36785799449898876852010-12-28T12:37:45.163-05:002010-12-28T12:37:45.163-05:00I remember you at Blackwater on Day 3, I was like ...I remember you at Blackwater on Day 3, I was like "uh...."<br /><br />This also applies to matches. Even a club level match can get you dehydrated and burned, so pack lots of water and sunscreen to these things. In the summer time I usually have an awesome "shooter's tan" from my t-shirt and shorts lines are.Calebhttp://gunnuts.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-61584576018850495102010-12-28T11:58:28.919-05:002010-12-28T11:58:28.919-05:00I'm so used to using a camelbak for bike ridin...I'm so used to using a camelbak for bike riding that using one on the range is a very natural extension of it's usefulness to me.<br /><br />It's that or water bottles at my favorite range, no running water and a porta potty or bushes for ones calls of nature.<br /><br />But I've seen enough crap on the intertubes that I just had to make that wise crack:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-30936001670937641392010-12-28T11:57:57.333-05:002010-12-28T11:57:57.333-05:00I learned to just put a tube of sun screen in my r...I learned to just put a tube of sun screen in my range bag. I'm usually really good about hydrating, but for Boomershoot this year I forgot to toss the sunscreen into the truck. Next day my face and head were blistered badly. I'm the shining example of why you bring sun screen to Boomershoot, even though it's only the end of April, and it could possibly snow.TheMinutemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04339472397050192421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-60035884770238297032010-12-28T11:09:29.928-05:002010-12-28T11:09:29.928-05:00tomcatshangar,
Haven't used a Camelbak myself...tomcatshangar,<br /><br />Haven't used a Camelbak myself, but then again, every place I've taken a class thus far has had a setup where the water wasn't but a few yards back of the firing line.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-5161599884195893692010-12-28T10:56:52.134-05:002010-12-28T10:56:52.134-05:00Two items I added after attending a couple of clas...Two items I added after attending a couple of classes at <a href="http://tdiohio.com" rel="nofollow">TDIOhio</a> were an assortment of band aids and a couple tennis wrist bands. I new sore or blister on your hand can be quite a distraction as can sweat pouring down your grip.FatWhiteManhttp://fatwhiteman.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-48442806507099403562010-12-28T10:55:02.178-05:002010-12-28T10:55:02.178-05:00Boat Guy, didn't you get the memo that camelba...Boat Guy, didn't you get the memo that camelbacks are for mall ninja's and Tactical Tommy's?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-36059675308926662112010-12-28T10:05:00.999-05:002010-12-28T10:05:00.999-05:00I just double the magazine requirements and have t...I just double the magazine requirements and have them all loaded the night before. Hate holding the class up. <br /><br />Last year was the first time I got a bit loopy from the sun. Too much coffee and not enough water.<br /><br />GerryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-757979451409614672010-12-28T09:00:27.882-05:002010-12-28T09:00:27.882-05:00Yea verily and Amen!
Camelbacks can be useful for...Yea verily and Amen!<br />Camelbacks can be useful for having water very handy and thus drinking easily while walking back from the line, instruction time etc (always good to have your water ON you). The downside I've found is that it's tough to track your consumption - and like "tactical" light batteries - they run dry with little warning. <br />One of Bride's classmates at the TR Urban Rifle class was using an M1 Carbine with a couple-three mags and so was having to get mags refilled a good bit, even though Clint Smith is not exactly of the "let's burn LOTS of ammo so we'll be cool" school. We actually brought ammo back from TR! 'Course we're still taking a BUNCH for the next class...Boat Guynoreply@blogger.com