tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post6750054937245810514..comments2023-11-10T04:17:00.492-05:00Comments on View From The Porch: Some deaths are tragicer than others, see?Tamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-56987858996146815872011-01-19T19:43:46.135-05:002011-01-19T19:43:46.135-05:00"... would like to see extremely strict gun l...<em>"... would like to see extremely strict gun laws and you can bet straw purchasing and gun flow into the criminal world would be diminished..."</em><br /><br />You are either ignorant or willingly glib.<br /><br />Been tried before and it didn't work. Many times elsewhere, and I'm NOT going to give you your fucking history lesson on this issue, bitch.<br /><br />Go read a fucking book.theirritablearchitecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04105315709746689270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-13358092735619933692011-01-19T12:19:05.332-05:002011-01-19T12:19:05.332-05:00Dan, In my view there should be some requirements ...Dan, In my view there should be some requirements as to how you keep your weapons safe from thieves. When something is stolen, reporting it is a must and that would be followed up with a little investigation to see if you failed to keep the gun reasonably secure. <br /><br />Reporting would be necessary since the gun would be registered to you and failure to have it in your possession would be another violation.<br /><br />In other words, I would like to see extremely strict gun laws and you can bet straw purchasing and gun flow into the criminal world would be diminished. Meanwhile all you gun owners would continue to enjoy your guns. Everybody wins.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-22060930772929262892011-01-18T22:01:47.328-05:002011-01-18T22:01:47.328-05:00"With simple regulations...*we* could..."..."With simple regulations...*we* could..."<br /><br />"With some other rules *we* could..."<br /><br />That is some bone fucking chilling verbiage right there, and gun "control" ain't the half of it.<br /><br />ATAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-20522670568696005532011-01-18T02:35:49.308-05:002011-01-18T02:35:49.308-05:00"I'm not OK with mass murders and we'..."<i>I'm not OK with mass murders and we'd have far fewer of them if there were proper gun control laws in America.</i>"<br /><br />Because proper gun control worked so well for preventing mass murders in Germany circa 1943, right? Russia in 1936-1938? China in 1950? Cambodia in 1975-1979?<br /><br />"<i>With simple regulations like licensing and registration, we could eliminate straw purchasing as a business. Right now it's thriving because there are no controls after the person walks out of the gun shop.</i>"<br /><br /><i>[citation needed]</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-5588554346604740292011-01-17T14:26:11.064-05:002011-01-17T14:26:11.064-05:00Hey Nancy-boy, I'm talking to you!Hey Nancy-boy, I'm talking to you!theirritablearchitecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04105315709746689270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-14991613045467622072011-01-17T02:01:10.469-05:002011-01-17T02:01:10.469-05:00Well put Tam.Well put Tam.Xavierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00036652456691021642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-34418337003382059902011-01-16T14:55:46.673-05:002011-01-16T14:55:46.673-05:00"I'm not OK with mass murders and we'...<em>"I'm not OK with mass murders and we'd have far fewer of them if there were proper gun control laws in America..."</em><br /><br />Conflated Horseshit.theirritablearchitecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04105315709746689270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-58689916585354828362011-01-16T10:45:09.955-05:002011-01-16T10:45:09.955-05:00"So, what happens when the owner comes up sho...<i>"So, what happens when the owner comes up short on the ledger after a burglary? Does the law ("strongly discouraging" sale of personal property) then punish the owner for being robbed?"</i><br /><br /><a href="http://stuckinmassachusetts.blogspot.com/2011/01/alan-gura-we-need-you-today.html" rel="nofollow">Massachusetts already does that.</a><br /><br /><i>"Police said Tuesday that officers responded to a Dublin Street home Monday afternoon after the owner reported that someone had broken into the cellar in which he stored a vault containing the guns.<br /><br />Police immediately revoked the gun owner’s Massachusetts license to carry a firearm, saying the potential of the missing firearms being used on Lowell streets is disconcerting."</i><br /><br />As we all know, in MA a license to "carry" is actually a license to <b>own</b>. As Jay pointed out, HE COMMITTED NO CRIME, YET THE COPS TOOK HIS GUNS AWAY. They punished the victim for being a gun owner.<br /><br />This is why licensing is unacceptable - it <b>ALWAYS</b> leads to confiscation.Jake (formerly Riposte3)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02976718318892210404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-77957033985694188822011-01-16T02:29:11.090-05:002011-01-16T02:29:11.090-05:00Mikeb, a large percentage of firearms in this coun...Mikeb, a large percentage of firearms in this country are owned legitimately, right?<br />A major source of illicit guns would be theft. So, what happens when the owner comes up short on the ledger after a burglary? Does the law ("strongly discouraging" sale of personal property) then punish the owner for being robbed?Dan F.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-64034784996878310402011-01-16T01:44:14.681-05:002011-01-16T01:44:14.681-05:00Tam asked me, "So you're okay with mass m...Tam asked me, <i>"So you're okay with mass murders as long as they're not done by crazy people?"</i><br /><br />That's a helluva leap from what I said.<br /><br />What I'm saying is this was about the mental health of the guy not the capacity of the magazines.<br /><br />I'm not OK with mass murders and we'd have far fewer of them if there were proper gun control laws in America. <br /><br />With simple regulations like licensing and registration, we could eliminate straw purchasing as a business. Right now it's thriving because there are no controls after the person walks out of the gun shop.<br /><br />With some other rules we could even encourage you legitimate gun owners to hang on to your weapons and stop letting them slip into the criminal world. Remember all those evil guns in the hands of evil bad guns started out as simple tools in the hands of honest citizens. Why can't you hang on to them?<br /><br />But what you want is none of that. That's why you're responsible.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-65231455000303401622011-01-15T18:17:35.117-05:002011-01-15T18:17:35.117-05:00Anon: 3:54 :
You sure you want to use the automob...Anon: 3:54 :<br /><br />You sure you want to use the automobile analogy?<br /><br />OK then. You have an absolute right in this country, to buy any automobile you want and can afford, no matter how fast, have it shipped to your home, and drive it as fast and as drunk as you with, on your own property.<br /><br />All without a shred of government paper.<br /><br />Sounds like a damned good idea to me. Let us implement it. Regulate guns like cars. I should then be able to buy a Vulcan minigun on ebay, have it shipped to me, and fire it at stuff on my own land, all without ever having passed a background check or have gotten a permit.<br /><br />Just like automobiles.Kristophrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08370888276707569365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-63990002544315261522011-01-15T16:40:07.670-05:002011-01-15T16:40:07.670-05:00Anon 3:54-A drunked up populace is not a potential...Anon 3:54-A drunked up populace is not a potential hazard to government authority. A gunned up populace is.Ritchienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-57994565018026779002011-01-15T16:22:33.745-05:002011-01-15T16:22:33.745-05:00Anon 3:54,
"So what rational person would re...Anon 3:54,<br /><br />"<i>So what rational person would really set a limit at .08?</i>"<br /><br />Personally? No rational person would.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-19603125699448708802011-01-15T15:54:38.608-05:002011-01-15T15:54:38.608-05:00First, let me stipulate that magazine restrictions...First, let me stipulate that magazine restrictions are stupid, but so is the analogy to setting cars to run only at 30 mph. There are restrictions out there called speed limits. The vast citizenry has not risen up to repeal all speeding laws so everyone can drive to work at 150 mph. <br /> Now, it is interesting that you question the motives of those who make arguments about magazine capacity. It seems similar to the argument that one drink can make someone drunk enough to cause a tragedy, so why set some arbitrary limit at .08 BAC? Isn't a single drink enough risk? So what rational person would really set a limit at .08? They are clearly focused on banning all drinking. Where do you stand on the legality of drinking and driving?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-40191528033966157842011-01-15T14:20:15.857-05:002011-01-15T14:20:15.857-05:00mikeb30200: Hey, felon, when are you going to retu...mikeb30200: Hey, felon, when are you going to return to the US and pay for your crimes?<br /><br />As for your whining about honest people being able to own the means to defend themselves from your ilk, that warms my heart.Kristophrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08370888276707569365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-90561316538217451672011-01-15T09:10:22.371-05:002011-01-15T09:10:22.371-05:00Not a huge fan of Iggy Piazza, DCM, FWCM, ETC, mys...Not a huge fan of Iggy Piazza, DCM, FWCM, ETC, myself.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-7394002696066716022011-01-15T08:59:11.769-05:002011-01-15T08:59:11.769-05:00Almost (but not quite) as stomach-turningly self-s...Almost (but not quite) as stomach-turningly self-serving as the O when it comes to using OPT (other people's tragedy) to promote their pet pony, is the ignominious ignatius...<br /><br />Once again using someone else's well-turned phraseology and ideology to turn a buck, this morning's missive led off with this:<br /><br />"The following quote was forwarded to me without a reference, but it is so good, I want to pass it on so everyone can see the REAL problem of Guns in America...<br /><br />Here is the very profound quote:<br /><br />You read the papers, listen to the pundits, surf the net... you'd think that you couldn't throw a dead cat without hitting somebody who's packin' heat in the USA.<br /><br />The media will tell you that we've got SO MANY guns that we're supplying Mexico's drug cartel's with our excess... yet last Saturday 19 people were shot at what I must assume was a well- attended event and NOBODY there had the means to protect THEMSELVES or their fellows. This in Constitutional Carry, pro-gun Arizona.<br /><br />... but the fact remains that on Saturday morning, in the United States of America... the land of the free... the home of the right to Keep and Bear Arms... a wolf was able to walk into a crowd of sheeple and kill indiscriminately... without challenge... once again."<br /><br />Pretty standard verbiage, but well said enough that iggy couldn't resist stealing someone else's words...again...to push his product.<br /><br />Oh, and as to "without reference"?<br /><br />Cut and paste the first sentence of that blurb to google and it comes right back to "Ferrari" at the Warriortalk.com forum.<br /><br />Marko finally got a half-hearted attribution when the doctor stole his words; maybe Ferrari will too.<br /><br />But I still think it's cheesy almost to the level of The One to use such events for one's own nefarious purposes...no matter which "side" of the debate one is on.<br /><br />Sorry for the diatribe, Tam...this guy and his greasy tactics just make me ill.<br /><br />ATAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-5367860402230645862011-01-15T08:01:17.147-05:002011-01-15T08:01:17.147-05:00Mikey's a big fan of the Gavrilo Principle. A...Mikey's a big fan of the <a href="http://www.firstworldwar.com/bio/princip.htm" rel="nofollow">Gavrilo Principle</a>. And of the guys who shot the Romanov family.Roberta Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09956807794520627885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-82260448907335306672011-01-15T07:13:04.630-05:002011-01-15T07:13:04.630-05:00mikeb30200,
So you're okay with mass murders ...mikeb30200,<br /><br />So you're okay with mass murders as long as they're not done by crazy people? It's okay with you if a dozen people get gunned down as a political statement by somebody who could pass any kook check you'd care to administer?<br /><br />Got it.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-89347408406830714812011-01-15T06:43:02.149-05:002011-01-15T06:43:02.149-05:00so is Joanie japete over on her blog wading in the...so is Joanie japete over on her blog wading in the blood?John Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04875185117306503147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-20576588888746462932011-01-15T06:38:28.859-05:002011-01-15T06:38:28.859-05:00"What's needed here is mental health scre...<em>"What's needed here is mental health screening of some kind..."</em><br /><br />Overseen and implemented by whom, Mikey? Big Sis Janet, bringer of the testicle squeezing, breast fondling perverts with blue gloves and a mail-order pacifier?<br /><br />Are you fucking serious?theirritablearchitecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04105315709746689270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-80268583768976642762011-01-15T04:51:10.743-05:002011-01-15T04:51:10.743-05:00What irritates me is where were thes self same idi...What irritates me is where were thes self same idiots with let's ban gasoline and blow torches after that nut bag set his family on fire in Puerto Rico?<br />:-(Josh Kruschkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288700371539530398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-70496607571021419482011-01-15T03:29:15.907-05:002011-01-15T03:29:15.907-05:00"What's needed here is mental health scre..."What's needed here is mental health screening of some kind. I realize it would be problematic to implement, but it would get to the heart of this issue. Most of these high profile shooters would be picked up."<br /><br />He <i>was</i> picked up, he had prior offenses along with a history of drug use. <br /><br />I'm curious how mental health screenings would help. Logic would dictate that someone who is okay with murdering people is okay with stealing a gun to do so when one cannot be legally obtained.<br /><br />All of this circles back to the beginning and begs the question: "how could more laws have done anything to change the outcome?" Ban high-capacity magazines? Buy pre-ban magazines, steal pre-ban magazines, bring more guns, etc. Ban guns? Steal them, use a knife, use an explosive, etc. <b>It's already illegal to commit murder, regardless of weapon preference.</b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-60007061487012784942011-01-15T01:43:36.751-05:002011-01-15T01:43:36.751-05:00Careful Mike, they might include a test on basic r...Careful Mike, they might include a test on basic reasoning ability as part of the test.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05414687981098467556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-48126735643338712052011-01-15T01:30:53.783-05:002011-01-15T01:30:53.783-05:00May I interrupt this gun-lovers support group for ...May I interrupt this gun-lovers support group for a moment? I don't think those high capacity magazines are the problem and I find it amazing that anyone is wasting time trying to restrict them<br /><br />What's needed here is mental health screening of some kind. I realize it would be problematic to implement, but it would get to the heart of this issue. Most of these high profile shooters would be picked up. Of course, your commentariat would be decimated as well, but I know you'd willingly agree to their being disarmed for the Health of the Nation.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.com