tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post7585233455711485228..comments2023-11-10T04:17:00.492-05:00Comments on View From The Porch: Here it comes...Tamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-82776179046607094542009-02-28T22:08:00.000-05:002009-02-28T22:08:00.000-05:00I can't help but wonder if the English colonis...I can't help but wonder if the English colonists foresaw a time in their near future were they would rise up and fight their government. Things progressively got worse and came to a head over some shootings of citizens in the street and an attempt at government confiscation of small arms. I often of late wonder what went through the minds of many of the average people in the street as these events unfolded. Perhaps they also felt this would never happen, that they would never overthrow their government, and that they would never have to take arms and fight for their freedoms.<BR/> I'm not saying that I want to go to war with my country, and I'm not someone who takes to conspiracy theories. I know Oswald acted alone, 911 was performed by terrorist hijackers and Area 51 only houses top secret test aircraft as it always has. But I've watched the government taking steps. Many pieces of the puzzle are starting to fall into place. There are large camps all over the US that have been built and executive orders have been drawn up to take all of your freedoms away.<BR/>http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/fema.htm<BR/> The government has been buying up large amounts of dehydrated food to store.<BR/>http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=70281<BR/><BR/> Soldiers are being selected and questioned about their feelings on Martial law and firing on their fellow citizens. They are also currently being trained in "homeland missions" http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/<BR/> Several States are also pushing towards "State Sovereignty" and declaring these articles towards the US Federal government.<BR/>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2009/02/17/122853.php<BR/>These are all things that are really happening right now. Funny how none of it is making the main stream media.<BR/>-GWAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-80809174573764103722009-02-28T02:36:00.000-05:002009-02-28T02:36:00.000-05:00Tam said... Sorry, I must be getting touchy...Tam said...<BR/> <BR/> Sorry, I must be getting touchy. I need to go lay on the Viet MacCong Doctor's couch...<BR/><BR/>You could lay on my couch, I have extra pillows and warm blankies and access to a number of really fine brews.Warthoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507247914387544169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-51710325202072944142009-02-28T00:27:00.000-05:002009-02-28T00:27:00.000-05:00Damn!!! This is really hard to resist,what with Tr...Damn!!! This is really hard to resist,what with TriLateral citations, a 'Tam as Liberal' accusation, and a few tinfoiler's on board. Lots of good grins, there. <BR/><BR/>And, nope, I dunno if'n anyone is gonna start poppin' caps on the AxxHolieAunties, but if one sits down and considers the logistics of actually doing so,I don't believe it'll be quite so simple a task to effect, as it is to say. <BR/><BR/>Got a list, incl local and semi-local? Got addresses? Got pictures? Got schedules? Recce'd the sites? ASO. Just some idle thinkin' here, on the theory of such doin's. <BR/><BR/>Anyway, nothing new as follows to the duly assembled , but sorta tangentially relevant:<BR/>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <BR/><BR/>A journalist friend referred this to me for my reaction, saying that will be the nail in the coffin for the pro-gun movement:<BR/><BR/>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/us/26borders.html?emc=eta1<BR/><BR/>As always, you have my permission to FWD my reply:<BR/>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR/>Shure enuff, that article's story do make the situation out to be Wan Beeg Suck, Senor.<BR/><BR/>It will make little difference to the public that NONE of the US guns sold are actually AK-47 fully automatic military models. Nor will comparing the numbers sold by the rogue FFL dealer Inkodosian, to the total seized make a dent in the public mindlessness. That guy is the worst sort of A-hole, and should spend the rest of his life behind bars. I AM surprized that no one turned him in, long ago. But, to the uninformed,he's prolly their image of a typical gun dealer: a sleazy cad catering to criminals.<BR/><BR/>Nor will the public note that the grenades, rocket launchers, and fully auto weapons being employed by the Mexagangs are NOT available in the US. That gear is military only, and has to come from the Mex armed forces. Or, as just as likely, further south down in ex-Sandinista country. A full auto AK-47 is available there on the thriving black market for around 50USD. It shouldn't be too difficult for a drug smuggling cartel to land all they want back home.<BR/><BR/>All that kind of info is beside the point, as is the fact that 99percent-plus of the FFL licensees are EXTREMELY careful about what and to whom they sell, including 100% standards demanded by the BATF on paperwork. Even in face to face private sale, it's SOP for MY kind of folks to ask for a Driver'sL and to kinda size up WHERE and to WHOM this 'piece' might be going. But. again, that is irrelevant to either the public or government.<BR/><BR/>I see the "Mexican" issue as a stalking horse. The government there has extremely stiff regs on guns, far stricter than the NYT apparently was informed. Private ownership is essentially for the connected, and well to do. The border area has a long tradition of flouting the central Government on this issue. <BR/><BR/>But, there are considerable documented stories about the mishaps and prison time incurred by uninformed/unconnected US sportsman, who thinking that they were going 'down' for weekend of duck shooting, got nailed for heavy expenses [bribes], and some sleazy, scairt lockdown time. Guns troubles on the border are NOT new, but just have hit a NEW awareness with the PARA-military [and Military, in fact] drug gang actions. So, it will go as you have noted. <BR/><BR/>This is a wonderful 'wedge issue' for the Aunties. It is also, on the other side of the mirror, an excellent example of how well gun control laws don't work when the criminal element is so monied and influential. The whole world is their arms bazaar, including the supplies of their own armed force. What minor amount of armament they smuggle in from the US, is small potatoes compared to fresh cases of grenades supplied from the local commandant at the Army post.<BR/><BR/>As always, spin wins. I did notice that Pelosi has for the time being nixed the AWB bill, for whatever reasons. The Dems should be astute enough to realize that it could bog down the economic proposals currently being considered. But, have faith, the whole progression of Auntie wet-dreams will be brought out when the time is right and the populace at large is scared enuff. Another Columbine, a massacre in Mexico, some egregiously murderous act will make fine fodder. In the meantime, the hugely great population of extraordinarily law abiding gun owners will continue as they always have.<BR/><BR/>Well, this is the most I've written in some time, as I find that the effort of even thinking about this particular issue is now personally draining and counter-productive: my batteries are flat, or as one TAM-blogger put it, more or less: "I feel as tho I'm trying to plug a huge hole in the dike, with my thumb." The gun owners need a visibly united and nationwide voter uprising.<BR/><BR/>I continue to believe, that the ONE historically proven action, that can affect and forestall for a while the 'progress', is feet on the ground. Demonstrate by peacefully filling the National Mall, for a day or six. Politicians absolutely pay attention when mass numbers of their constituents are just a door knock away. <BR/><BR/>A few folks are now opening web site[s] for a 2nd Amendment march, a Million Man March, or what have you. I think Tam posted some links here? Lots of operational issues to be figured out.<BR/><BR/>We'll see. Gun owner's at large are like herding cats: not really interested in 'group hugs' and independent more or less by nature.<BR/><BR/>Well, really gotta go now. Group hug, tho~~~!! ;~`) ;~`)<BR/><BR/>Best, J t R<BR/>______Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-65879455910945365022009-02-27T18:43:00.000-05:002009-02-27T18:43:00.000-05:00My prediction, FWIW, is that there won't be any si...My prediction, FWIW, is that there won't be any significant resistance to new gun laws. And what little resistance there is will be counterproductive.<BR/><BR/> Disobedience, sure, there will be some. But the penalties will be light when applied to otherwise decent citizens.<BR/><BR/>But historically, when it's been done through legislation, gun owners have let themselves be divided and conquered.staghoundshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05976667812875074135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-82813884226177754702009-02-27T18:02:00.000-05:002009-02-27T18:02:00.000-05:00Caleb, What search parameters did you use? I did...Caleb, <BR/> What search parameters did you use? I did a couple of quick searches, but decided I didn't want to wade thru all the 9/11 BS to find the structual limits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-1336703507171215432009-02-27T11:30:00.000-05:002009-02-27T11:30:00.000-05:00The two extremes are (as stated by their opponents...The two extremes are (as stated by their opponents):<BR/>1) Don't Shoot at the Government, Just Follow Orders.<BR/>2) Shoot All the Murdering JBT Bastards Now Dammit.<BR/><BR/>To paraphrase: "Shooting did not start after a series of government infringements and atrocities therefore it will never happen." Fails elementary logic, even if it turns out to be true.<BR/><BR/>What is different this time? Maybe nothing. Maybe this time is the tipping point and shooting starts.<BR/><BR/>I boldly predict that what happens will be something between 1 and 2.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-13214102094150047752009-02-27T09:34:00.000-05:002009-02-27T09:34:00.000-05:00I don't know. I think it was here on Tam's blog t...I don't know. <BR/><BR/>I think it was here on Tam's blog that I read one of the funnier things I've read, something about Bob in Accounting and his fantasy of being Mel Gibbson in Mel Gibbson Kills the English Part 2. And I can see how the thought of being out in the streets shooting can come about, all things taken into consideration.<BR/><BR/>However, I tend to agree with PDB about this all: you didn't start shooting after any other gun control laws were passed, you didn't start shooting after the last AWB, after Ruby Ridge, after Waco, or any other time that one would see people start shooting...what would be different this time?R-Fhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12512348533491315526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-59762300142485270262009-02-27T08:52:00.000-05:002009-02-27T08:52:00.000-05:00"That was sarcasm."Sorry, I must be getting touchy..."<I>That was sarcasm.</I>"<BR/><BR/>Sorry, I must be getting touchy. I need to go lay on the Viet MacCong Doctor's couch...Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-19853841290917517672009-02-27T08:35:00.000-05:002009-02-27T08:35:00.000-05:00"And nobody saw this coming?"Do I fucking look sho..."And nobody saw this coming?"<BR/><BR/>Do I fucking look shocked to you?<BR/><BR/>Tam,<BR/><BR/>That was sarcasm. Considering the jump in sales and lead time in back orders, there are a heck of a lot of people who saw this coming.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-72158552460247375542009-02-26T23:39:00.000-05:002009-02-26T23:39:00.000-05:00I would not be surprised at all if they pass this ...I would not be surprised at all if they pass this kind of thing. I don't think pelosi is bright enough to see the risk, and I don't see that she would care. Holder has made it clear that he wants an AWB. One could "vote from the rooftops." It combines the above suggested voting and other activities into one.<BR/><BR/>I don't see a full-moon from here either, swamp gas maybe? Or uppity bots.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-82467280470938913732009-02-26T23:26:00.000-05:002009-02-26T23:26:00.000-05:00I was really hoping your truther would come back, ...I was really hoping your truther would come back, I spent all day looking for information on the relative G forces that a 767 could withstand during emergency maneuvering, and then compared it to a graph of the estimated Gs that the planes that hit the towers would have encountered.<BR/><BR/>But he didn't, so that means I spent an afternoon looking at airframe stress diagrams in vain...or did I? Sigh, another day, another watchlist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-81927471075811886402009-02-26T23:17:00.000-05:002009-02-26T23:17:00.000-05:00Um, sure ya d-- No, I can't even type it with a s...Um, sure ya d-- No, I can't even <I>type</I> it with a straight face.Roberta Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09956807794520627885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-90036405035073640752009-02-26T23:11:00.000-05:002009-02-26T23:11:00.000-05:00Anon 7:25,"And nobody saw this coming?"Do I fuckin...Anon 7:25,<BR/><BR/>"<I>And nobody saw this coming?</I>"<BR/><BR/>Do I fucking <I>look</I> shocked to you?<BR/><BR/><BR/>(This is me, rolling my eyes...)Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-48439513460329098922009-02-26T22:53:00.000-05:002009-02-26T22:53:00.000-05:00I'm truly surprised nobody else has poked fun at t...I'm truly surprised nobody else has poked fun at the notion that a new AWB is going to help stop drug cartels from getting their hands on fully automatic weapons and grenades. I mean, isn't that what the Attorney General was getting at there? Oh wait, that's how you sell a new AWB to the people. It's going to keep fully automatic weapons and grenades out of the hands of the drug cartels. Now I've convinced myself. I'm all for a new AWB now, too. Kool-Aid all around.<BR/><BR/>Oh and Kelly, nice one. You beat me to the punch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-77431596541387312992009-02-26T22:02:00.000-05:002009-02-26T22:02:00.000-05:00Wow... Does anyone mind if I get back on topic? Th...Wow... Does anyone mind if I get back on topic? The first Anon is right, California's AWB had dismal compliance. FAR too low for the amount of awareness about the law change that they had tried to generate. After the Right People(tm) realized that there were a lot of gun owners out there who willfully became felons, they realized that these people were probably not very interested in surrendering if ever confronted for their crime.<BR/><BR/>So for years, an AW charge was just something they tacked on to real charges. Robbery, assault, and assault weapon possession. The recent AW arrests and cases had more to do with people who felt they were within the law and had legal rifles (off list lowers, and lack of police education), but for the most part... There are a LOT of illegal "assault weapons" in Ca.<BR/><BR/>Considering how meek and mild gun owners from other states consider Californian gun owners to be, a federal AWB now should make California's compliance rate look impressive by comparison.Fletchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09719982260089858624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-12793817755762626532009-02-26T21:34:00.000-05:002009-02-26T21:34:00.000-05:00That's what I get for drinking flouridated water, ...<I>That's what I get for drinking flouridated water, I guess.</I><BR/><BR/>You're screwed, Tam. The Commies have contaminated your precious bodily fluids. This, of course, is why I drink only distilled water, rainwater, and pure grain alcohol.Arcadia Irishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00163489155225065779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-23918817196419556642009-02-26T20:21:00.000-05:002009-02-26T20:21:00.000-05:00Are you people trying to tell me there is no Santa...Are you people trying to tell me there is no Santa Claus?<BR/>Was it something I said?<BR/>I took a shower today........sheeesh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-53361002617509869442009-02-26T20:17:00.000-05:002009-02-26T20:17:00.000-05:00Hell, in case you hadn't noticed, the Scots-Cong p...Hell, in case you hadn't noticed, the Scots-Cong psychiatrist called you "Yankee."<BR/><BR/>That wouldn't stand up in court.<BR/>Not even in Marion County.<BR/><BR/>wv: coletion. I don't know but it sounds unpleasant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-61010893161584513652009-02-26T20:08:00.000-05:002009-02-26T20:08:00.000-05:00...if nothing else I can pick up a few bucks selli...<EM>...if nothing else I can pick up a few bucks selling them at 3 times the price when they are banned."</EM><BR/><BR/>Sell them for what<BR/><BR/>You're miles ahead by keeping them, regardless of regulatory environment.theirritablearchitecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04105315709746689270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-7566967509152937222009-02-26T19:25:00.000-05:002009-02-26T19:25:00.000-05:00And nobody saw this coming?If you didn't then you ...And nobody saw this coming?<BR/><BR/>If you didn't then you were listening to what he said vs looking at what he did.<BR/><BR/>Give me a break. I never wanted an AR before as I was just fine shooting my mausers. But as soon as this jerk was elected, I ordered my first AR and 10 30 round mags. <BR/><BR/>Not because of anything more than I might want them later, and if nothing else I can pick up a few bucks selling them at 3 times the price when they are banned.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-78809714947255663562009-02-26T18:05:00.000-05:002009-02-26T18:05:00.000-05:00I think this is the first time in my life anybody ...I think this is the first time in my life anybody has ever used the terms "leftist" or "redneck" to refer to me.<BR/><BR/>I've been called "close-minded" before, so that's not technically a <I>first</I>, but up until now it's only been by pinko gun-grabbers...<BR/><BR/>That's what I get for drinking flouridated water, I guess.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-80377030158487376152009-02-26T17:32:00.000-05:002009-02-26T17:32:00.000-05:00RE: Anonymous said... You people deserve each othe...RE: Anonymous said... <BR/>You people deserve each other! You give uneducated redneck a whole new meaning!<BR/>He was right, trying to to tell the truth to a site full of closed minded, redneck, leftist, simpletons, was a mistake!<BR/><BR/>Ahem, Masters in Accounting, open minded, centrist, intelligent (and humble), open minded, closet redneck. And WTF? you say redneck like its a bad thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-44519771649841282012009-02-26T16:53:00.000-05:002009-02-26T16:53:00.000-05:00Protip: When you say stuff like this - And yes fly...Protip: When you say stuff like this - <I>And yes flying a 747 into skyscrapers doing manuevers they weren't physically able to do, is kinda like rocket science</I> it generally helps to use the correct aircraft designation. The planes that hit the towers were Boeing 7<B>6</B>7s, not 747s, and were more than capable of performing the maneuvers that were necessary. Just because your friendly airline captain doesn't hang 5 G turns on you doesn't mean that the airframe is incapable of withstanding such forces.<BR/><BR/>AND KNOWING IS HALF THE BATTLEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-23611135635043114022009-02-26T16:33:00.000-05:002009-02-26T16:33:00.000-05:00Nancy Pelosi seems to be telegraphing that SHE doe...Nancy Pelosi seems to be telegraphing that SHE doesn't intend to bring this up and that the Obama administration or Holder hasn't discussed it with her.<BR/><BR/>I think what we have here is the Executive branch trying to squeeze the legislative by threatening to bring up something that any ninny, even Nancy Pelosi, knows is pure political dynamite.<BR/><BR/>Basically, they're running it up the flag to see who salutes... <BR/><BR/>Any congressweasel with a shred of sense in even some semi-blue districts won't...B.S. philosopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05991238092700083612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-90778786241270454672009-02-26T16:25:00.000-05:002009-02-26T16:25:00.000-05:00Just a perspective on O'Reilly:http://www.sfgate.c...Just a perspective on O'Reilly:<BR/><BR/>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2007/07/12/violetblue.DTL<BR/><BR/>Remember?<BR/><BR/>Now, back to your regularly scheduled programming download. . .Rovahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02372403591311893355noreply@blogger.com