tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post7756960822125159165..comments2023-11-10T04:17:00.492-05:00Comments on View From The Porch: "No dogs or Irish..."Tamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-38773327661584093432013-09-23T20:19:23.636-04:002013-09-23T20:19:23.636-04:00S_Moriarty,
"As an actual Irish person, ther...S_Moriarty,<br /><br />"<i>As an actual Irish person, therefore someone from a country where it is illegal to carry or own firearms, and a country with an unarmed police force, please do not compare us to your weird gun beef with a coffee chain.</i>"<br /><br />"Shut up," she suggested.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-87596331355026703832013-09-23T16:06:56.970-04:002013-09-23T16:06:56.970-04:00S,
I was referring to the citizenry in terms of o...S,<br /><br />I was referring to the citizenry in terms of oppression, not the authorities. But thanks for the history lesson.<br /><br />As for "not racial", you apparently need a history lesson of your own. The "Irish race" was demonized in the American press and popular culture as ape-like and brutish, violent and drunk. Barely "white" at all compared to decent Protestant Anglo-Saxons.<br /><br />The imagery and language used in the cartoons of the day was actually very much like that applied to blacks.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05414687981098467556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-6547342581957350092013-09-23T15:54:44.106-04:002013-09-23T15:54:44.106-04:00Actually Matthew, the reason our police don't ...Actually Matthew, the reason our police don't carry arms is because when our country got its independence in the 1920s, the Royal Constabulary, famed for its brutality in Ireland, was replaced by the Gardaí Síochána: literally, the guardians of the peace. And while the Royal Constabulary were armed, the Gardaí weren't as a sign that they would work with the people instead of as a tool of the system. So basically, instead of arming everyone like the US, we decided it was better for everyone if guns were used solely for farming. <br /><br />Also, the discrimination faced by many Irish abroad was in no way race motivated, seeing as most Irish people are white.S_Moriartynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-37672700412589964702013-09-23T13:21:20.394-04:002013-09-23T13:21:20.394-04:00S_,
"No dogs or Irish" signs were a fac...S_,<br /><br />"No dogs or Irish" signs were a fact of life for those who -left- Ireland (like my ancestors) to try to avoid such oppression, only to find racist discrimination waiting for them to overcome in America.<br /><br />So you can relax, the reference has nothing to do with those who chose to stay and eventually accept the yoke.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05414687981098467556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-21427119836232763682013-09-23T12:44:35.476-04:002013-09-23T12:44:35.476-04:00As an actual Irish person, therefore someone from ...As an actual Irish person, therefore someone from a country where it is illegal to carry or own firearms, and a country with an unarmed police force, please do not compare us to your weird gun beef with a coffee chain.S_Moriartynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-88727902724202760852013-09-19T13:45:59.160-04:002013-09-19T13:45:59.160-04:00Starbucks has effectively asked for a “GUN FREE ZO...Starbucks has effectively asked for a “GUN FREE ZONE” whether they posted a sign or not.<br /><br />With the GFZ massacres in mind that have occurred starting with the Ft. Hood Shootings, I say we give them what they want and let nature take it’s natural course, then promptly say, “We told you so.”Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967355941603195101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-87966960454982068892013-09-19T03:10:11.814-04:002013-09-19T03:10:11.814-04:00Anon,
Starbuck's drew a line over a year ago,...Anon,<br /><br />Starbuck's drew a line over a year ago, and were on the correct side of it (let state law apply).<br /><br />Then a bunch of assholes on -our- side went and shoved them across it.<br /><br />Blame needs to be placed where due to avoid repetition. The vocal and stupid segment of "our side" that can't comprehend that the best way to normalize carry is to simply carry normally is the direct cause of this outcome. They don't get to try to evade that reponsibility.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05414687981098467556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-10905926917221073462013-09-18T21:45:20.107-04:002013-09-18T21:45:20.107-04:00Starbucks drew the line, and they're on the wr...Starbucks drew the line, and they're on the wrong side of it. F--K 'em. If you're not with us...<br />There's coffee places everywhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-67970984252131484092013-09-18T20:51:16.889-04:002013-09-18T20:51:16.889-04:00Tam nailed it the "cocktard" moniker.
I ...Tam nailed it the "cocktard" moniker.<br />I fully support the 2nd, but someone being a prick about it makes more than just the anti-gunnies uncomfortable.<br />Starbucks could have done better and they'll see less of my money, but the blame for Starbucks retreating to its Seattle roots is firmly attached to the end of a shoulder-slung AR.Buzznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-29353612303641064552013-09-18T20:29:23.882-04:002013-09-18T20:29:23.882-04:00Every time someone shows up with a rifle at Starbu...Every time someone shows up with a rifle at Starbucks, it costs the company money. I'd be surprised if each time cost less than a couple hundred dollars, I wouldn't be surprised to find that it was in the thousands if you include the impact of yuppies frightened out of future business. I bet that the cost is a good bit more long term than quarterly "Starbucks Appreciation Days". <br /><br />I think this letter is as limited a response as is consistent with the fiduciary duty of Starbucks management, and it is far better for us than I would expect under the circumstances. Actually banning concealed carry would be picking a side, this is merely "Hey guys, you're scaring our other customers and costing us business--We're not the boss of you but can ya cut it out?". <br /><br />I don't expect ordinary business to be pro-gun, I just want them to ignore us if we let them. Sevesteenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10167315201563562644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-63250815497285266592013-09-18T19:43:34.665-04:002013-09-18T19:43:34.665-04:00I'd rather be sampling the microbrews around y...I'd rather be sampling the microbrews around your 'hood over some damned overpriced and over sugared coffee any day any how!Jeffrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06873138122305060834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-48805504401292048652013-09-18T19:04:38.740-04:002013-09-18T19:04:38.740-04:00"Waffle House has a chain-wide no weapons pol..."Waffle House has a chain-wide no weapons policy"<br /><br />This sad news was new to me today as well.<br /><br />But our visits there have been infrequent since my wife had her gall bladder removed at the end of 2006.Scott Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-66382019664385206032013-09-18T18:32:36.187-04:002013-09-18T18:32:36.187-04:00mikee,
"The CEO just said..."
Believe ...mikee,<br /><br />"<i>The CEO just said...</i>"<br /><br />Believe it or not, my grasp of written English is such that I can read what the CEO wrote all by myself. (Without moving my lips or running my finger across the screen, even!)Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-84823608094625715442013-09-18T17:28:52.293-04:002013-09-18T17:28:52.293-04:00Tam, Starbucks has just been Mau-Mau'ed and th...Tam, Starbucks has just been Mau-Mau'ed and the Flack Catchers have responded to the Left appropriately. <br /><br />Continue to patronize them if you like overpriced coffee.<br /><br />The CEO just said, "I don't like it that my brand name is becoming politicized, but I'm not going to do a darn thing about it, other than this politely phrased letter."<br /><br />The anti-gun fools think something has been done against open carry, when nothing has been done.<br /><br />Carry into Starbucks and they will politely serve you your desired beverage, without any notice being taken of your gat, hogleg, milsurp or ubertacticool legally carried arms.<br /><br />You gotta read the lines, then between 'em, if you want to know what is really going on.mikeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-51235974559734229582013-09-18T16:51:52.984-04:002013-09-18T16:51:52.984-04:00One of my favorite George Carlin bits is when he d...One of my favorite George Carlin bits is when he described a woman asking him "Do you mind if I smoke?" His response - "Of course not. Do you mind if I fart?"<br /><br />My local chain bookstore has a Starbucks, where they invite you to browse and read while having a refreshment. I think I will find a magazine or two like "Guns & Ammo" or "Shotgun News" and have a nibble and while s-l-o-w-l-y reading that insurrectionist material - because I can.<br /><br />WV: "979 yumanym" - Yes, it is.Ednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-78143589204683482732013-09-18T15:32:34.808-04:002013-09-18T15:32:34.808-04:00Starbuck Facebook page is in open warfare mode.
G...Starbuck Facebook page is in open warfare mode.<br /><br />GerryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-85322839589355777192013-09-18T13:44:56.685-04:002013-09-18T13:44:56.685-04:00"Heh. 'Dickweasel'. I'm totally s...<i>"Heh. 'Dickweasel'. I'm totally stealing that for use in everyday life! Might even surpass 'turdburger' as Favorite Expletive!"</i><br /><br />Rabid Alien, these days I'm finding "jackwagon" to be particularly versitile.<br /><br />But at least Mommies Throwing Hissy Fits can now sip their latte' while feeeling much safer.rickn8orhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911803300343351338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-24596197141197663092013-09-18T13:43:05.292-04:002013-09-18T13:43:05.292-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.rickn8orhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911803300343351338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-88379074827389056072013-09-18T13:07:00.997-04:002013-09-18T13:07:00.997-04:00"I think in-your-face OC cocktards forced Sta..."I think in-your-face OC cocktards forced Starbucks to pick a side.<br /><br />But the side they picked wasn't mine"<br /><br />Indeed. Don't force someone to pick a side for you might not like the side they pick.<br /><br />Scott Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-41596676022527117782013-09-18T12:57:15.101-04:002013-09-18T12:57:15.101-04:00Would have just been smarter to say Hey, leave us/...Would have just been smarter to say Hey, leave us/our name out of your agendas. But they responded with picking a side. Should have just remained neutral, or stayed specific. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-35692394315605186652013-09-18T12:52:01.888-04:002013-09-18T12:52:01.888-04:00I read the memo as corporate speak for can't y...I read the memo as corporate speak for can't you kids go fight on somebody else lawn. His corporate law weasels are worried about liability, and law suits for operating an unsafe work places.<br /><br />Well partner, I bid you and your grande mocha something adios! Little Maria pours a fine cup of java just the way I like it and it comes with a pretty smile added for no extra charge.<br /><br />GerryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-32321608172695919202013-09-18T12:18:32.398-04:002013-09-18T12:18:32.398-04:00Tam,
I completely agree with you and I'm not ...Tam,<br /><br />I completely agree with you and I'm not advocating that gun owners continue to patronize Starbucks. My only point was that a bunch of dicks forced Starbuck's hand and now gun owners have to decide how to respond.<br /><br />For me it is a non-issue, as I have rarely set foot in a Starbucks for financial reasons. I would hope that gun owners would decide to take their business to pro-gun, or at least "still neutral", companies and avoid Starbucks.<br /><br />What I hope doesn't happen is to have new OC rallies outside Starbucks in protest of their new stance. That would only make things worse.Matt Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17100543194533034378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-54909038956423060382013-09-18T12:07:50.266-04:002013-09-18T12:07:50.266-04:00Matt W,
I CC.
I think in-your-face OC cocktards ...Matt W,<br /><br />I CC.<br /><br />I think in-your-face OC cocktards forced Starbucks to pick a side.<br /><br />But the side they picked wasn't mine.<br /><br />Just because I can pass as White doesn't mean I'm going to go sit at the newly-segregated lunch counter.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-16439242659607383272013-09-18T11:51:39.219-04:002013-09-18T11:51:39.219-04:00being "appropriated" for the political p...being "appropriated" for the political purposes of either side...-c-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-16041558251703695712013-09-18T11:45:09.040-04:002013-09-18T11:45:09.040-04:00stuart and others:
Go read Shultz' comments a...stuart and others:<br /><br />Go read Shultz' comments again, then read Tam's post again.<br /><br />If the man had said he didn't appreciate his company's name and locations being for the political purposes of either side, I'd have said I'd fight for his right to that position. Instead he said he doesn't want guns, or you by extension, in his stores but he won't ban you...probably only because he doesn't want another type of demonstration, plus hey, yeah we do want your money.<br /><br />He should and could have adopted his namesake's position and said "we see nothink! we know nothink!" and kept neutral. But no, his statement leaves no doubt about his real sentiment, and it's got hippie libtard PC, CYA, and FU all up in there. As Tam's Irish snarkism makes clear, he hates me and I will not give him my money.<br /><br />-chaz- Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com