tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post8610978238539665895..comments2023-11-10T04:17:00.492-05:00Comments on View From The Porch: Our most disastrous war...Tamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-19291578568696741032013-11-01T12:02:36.558-04:002013-11-01T12:02:36.558-04:00The hemp that is used for rope and paper contains ...The hemp that is used for rope and paper contains no THC . The war on pot was used to stop the production of paper . The war was lead by Life and Time Magazines the MSM of the '30 s . I believe Hearst owned them and he had interests in Pulp and Paper production.<br /><br />Glenn KelleyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-3723895194531860682013-10-31T19:05:12.227-04:002013-10-31T19:05:12.227-04:00If I "just wanted to smoke pot" I'd ...If I "just wanted to smoke pot" I'd smoke pot. It's not like it's hard to come by. When I was in school there were at least six guys I personally knew from whom you could obtain whatever illegal drug you fancied, but I was the only one who could get you a pack of Marlboro Lights.<br /><br />When it isn't meaningfully more difficult for an inmate in a maximum-security prison to get heroin than it is for a law-abiding citizen to get Sudafed, it is no longer possible to argue that the WoD is anything but an abject failure at its nominal purposes. Which leads me to believe that what we bemoan as the "horrific side effects" (crime, violence, tyranny, etc) aren't actually side effects at all, but the true purpose.lelnethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08600824544185328505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-38515836591646999622013-10-30T14:03:29.563-04:002013-10-30T14:03:29.563-04:00My two cents as someone who is an addict and alcoh...My two cents as someone who is an addict and alcoholic with 32 years sober and now someone with a herniated disc and a career that involves irritating that disc daily, I vote legalize it all.Not because I want to get high because I seriously don't and hate the way depressants and opiates make me feel. <br />I hate having to eat vicodin most days but I hate crying from the pain more. I have a pretty high pain tolerance and have done some truly retarded things because... John Wayne...such as taping up a broken rib at 18 because I didn't want my parents to know I'd been sparring. Such as running and puking while trying to figure out how to run a 7 minute mile pace for 2nd batt, or all the other dumb shit they encouraged (good lord I was a moron). Breaking an ankle at a racetrack and going on to operate a rather stiffer clutch pedal (2800 lb pressure plate) than is found in the average grocery getter on a half mile dirt track instead of using my brain and going to the emergency room (did I say "was a moron?"). My back has completely recalibrated my pain scale and my obligations to my family and debtors mean I need to suck it up and deal for the foreseeable future. Some days I'm fine slinging 80 lb wheels all day and then others I walk a mile at the county fair with my sweetie on a day off and it feels like someone is taking a pointy but dull knife to the spaces between my vertebrae. <br />If only I'd know I'd survive until fifty I would have done things differently, like go to college, hell the army tried to pay for it...did I mention I was a moron?Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03625557682819115254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-15987873650724736512013-10-29T15:42:41.837-04:002013-10-29T15:42:41.837-04:00Amen Sister TamAmen Sister TamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-82427260399890911022013-10-28T14:35:17.425-04:002013-10-28T14:35:17.425-04:00Tam, Agree 100%, but must correct an error of fact...Tam, Agree 100%, but must correct an error of fact. Billy Bennett was not, is not, and will never be considered a paleo conservative. In fact he was the neo con replacement for Mel Bradford at NEH, in the 1980's. Paleos hate Bennett and have for thirty yearsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-56510070423374726412013-10-28T13:19:57.137-04:002013-10-28T13:19:57.137-04:00Waco was a classic- I watched the FEDS trot out th...Waco was a classic- I watched the FEDS trot out their justifications one after the other during the siege. First it was -"They have illegal guns!!" Nobody seemed to give a damn, so then the story changed to "they are drug dealers, and nobody seemed to give a damn, so they changed it "they are child molesters", and then the feds leveled the place. <br /> The war on terror was invented because we still had one or two civil rights left over after the war on drugs....<br /> <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-91508615218783346602013-10-28T09:10:33.311-04:002013-10-28T09:10:33.311-04:00No sweat. Ask me in meatspace about this sometime....No sweat. Ask me in meatspace about this sometime.I cant expand further here.oghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07551049745184408924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-48342638377326032932013-10-27T23:56:56.484-04:002013-10-27T23:56:56.484-04:00og,
I was just curious and wondered if you'd ...og,<br /><br />I was just curious and wondered if you'd expand, that's all. That makes sense.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-91208948758159719272013-10-27T22:55:20.189-04:002013-10-27T22:55:20.189-04:00"I think I'd be just as irked if they hit..."I think I'd be just as irked if they hit me because they were texting at 70 versus toking at 70."<br /><br />Indeed. Both under the influence. I know people who functioned perfectly well while doing enough heroin to bring a horse to it's knees. I know people who should have dashboards with one and only one idiot light because anything else is beyond their ken. The point is, if you can't handle it, whatever it is, and you hurt me, or mine, hunker down for the shitstorm. oghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07551049745184408924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-35667033857622670092013-10-27T22:25:43.359-04:002013-10-27T22:25:43.359-04:00I really have nothing to add that hasn't been ...I really have nothing to add that hasn't been said. I just wanted to add my applause for a rant well done. <br />I don't really give a damn (texting/toking/etc) why they hit me, just that they did. Sure, drugs are bad n'stuff because some people do bad things when they use them. How about we prosecute and punish for the bad things done rather than all the people.Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05697173636167216585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-31351093763645352352013-10-27T20:38:00.669-04:002013-10-27T20:38:00.669-04:00I think I'd be just as irked if they hit me be...I think I'd be just as irked if they hit me because they were texting at 70 versus toking at 70.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-11149450383062172812013-10-27T20:27:27.740-04:002013-10-27T20:27:27.740-04:00"
Why do you care? I mean... If someone harms..."<br />Why do you care? I mean... If someone harms me or one of mine and it wasn't truly an accident, it's pretty irrelevant to me why they did it."<br /><br />I said nothing about accident. If someone harms me or mine, "Accidentally", I won't be happy. If someone harms me or mine "Accidentally" under the influence, well, they won't be happy. I don't care if it's an accident or not. oghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07551049745184408924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-58807130500320753872013-10-27T14:06:05.695-04:002013-10-27T14:06:05.695-04:00My reason for despising Bill Bennett is his advoca...My reason for despising Bill Bennett is his advocacy of conscription on the grounds of promoting social cohesion.Kenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04780425923108876647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-57594866596889821582013-10-27T13:23:26.958-04:002013-10-27T13:23:26.958-04:00The only problem is who is going to pay for all th...<i>The only problem is who is going to pay for all the complications</i><br /><br />The same people that pay for everything, US Taxpayers. <br />Personally, I would rather pay for fixing something that is broken, an addict, than pay to destroy something, our rights. And I think the money saved would be a landslide. KMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-11721845643432982652013-10-27T12:29:16.713-04:002013-10-27T12:29:16.713-04:00"(That's right: 922r is a direct result o..."(That's right: 922r is a direct result of the War on Drugs, via paleoconservative Republican Bill Bennett. You can look it up.)"<br /><br />Son of a... yet another reason for me to despise that man. <br /><br />Last year it was his moralizing on young men being "peter pans" and not marrying good conservative working women and thus continue to contribute to society and family values nonsense. All while he was the drug czar and a gambling addict.JFPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-81416195859000460202013-10-27T11:59:48.744-04:002013-10-27T11:59:48.744-04:00Honestly the .Gov only cares about power. The hea...Honestly the .Gov only cares about power. The health and safety of its subjects is far from the top of its To-Do list.<br /><br />How many were ever taught about the Government Prohibition alcohol poisoning non-scandal.<br /><br />http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2010/02/the_chemists_war.htmlTedhttp://www.shadowsfall.org/mandogandgunnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-6402062122967519832013-10-27T11:54:39.023-04:002013-10-27T11:54:39.023-04:00"...this won't change as long as the peop..."...this won't change as long as the people making the law are the ones making the money off keeping the anti-drug laws intact."<br /><br />Bingo. We have a war on some drugs because it is in the interest of the ruling class to have it, just as in any other war. It is completely irrelevant that to us, the war makes no sense. The rulers don't care what we think, as long as we leave them in power over us.<br /><br />"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."<br />-- Frederick DouglassAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-72064870466140721872013-10-27T11:16:16.389-04:002013-10-27T11:16:16.389-04:00Yes, the war on us, and our civil liberties is rea...Yes, the war on us, and our civil liberties is really tiresome.<br /><br />A few years back , I went into my local vet supply house to purchase iodine, you know for using on newborn calf navels, and puncture wounds, and was told that I could no longer purchase straight iodine because it was being used in the manufacturing of meth.<br />Excuse me? WTF?<br /><br />My own experiences of traveling in southern Nevada and Arizona would fill a very large tome.<br /><br />Damn, I do not use or sell drugs, but it just gets really tiresome.<br /><br />'nuff said.<br /><br />Bob<br />IIIidahobobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12857771751176894988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-86877613476481099882013-10-27T09:41:00.132-04:002013-10-27T09:41:00.132-04:00I don't drink or do drugs but I say legalize t...I don't drink or do drugs but I say legalize them...The only problem is who is going to pay for all the complications that arise from that...I have a feeling that the taxpayers will like we do on all the alcohol abuse..Now the money we save on doing away with enforcement might be more on what we spend on treatment so we might be better off in the long run anyway...As long as it doesn't infringe on my Rightful Liberty I say go for it...linemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18180668439619161153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-1744447621445740122013-10-27T08:59:00.326-04:002013-10-27T08:59:00.326-04:00Borepatch:
The difference between instruments and...Borepatch:<br /><br />The difference between instruments and actions. Between objects and behavior.<br /><br />I find it [some adjective on a range between hilarious and disturbing] that conservatives can see the point where it comes to guns but utterly miss it when it comes to drugs. Or,for that matter, prostitution. Or any other "sin".<br /><br />MMark Algerhttp://www.babytrollblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-3300971462877588022013-10-27T08:50:50.443-04:002013-10-27T08:50:50.443-04:00Kevin: That was a really great post.
Og: G-d help...Kevin: That was a really great post.<br /><br />Og: <i>G-d help you if you harm me or mine while under the influence.</i><br /><br />Why do you care? I mean... If someone harms me or one of mine and it wasn't truly an accident, it's pretty irrelevant to me <b>why</b> they did it.<br /><br />Anonymous: <i>For the longest time I was one of those who thought "you just want to smoke pot" when I heard "libertarian". The reason? Everyone I knew who espoused libertarian values interrupted their own diatribes with bong rips.</i><br /><br />I have to admit, the longer I've been able to see just how utterly fucked we are, the more I feel the need to self-medicate, too.<br /><br />Everyone who commented about chronic pain: Hell yes.<br /><br />Tam: The most noxious thing about this recent FDA issue is their faux concern over acetaminophen poisoning... when it was the FDA who mandated the acetaminophen content <b>explicitly</b> for the purpose of making the drugs less safe to use. (Yes, I'm going to go look for a citation for that claim.)perlhaqrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920117742664645165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-62074057428952759892013-10-27T08:29:37.231-04:002013-10-27T08:29:37.231-04:00Seriously, the War on (Some) Drugs has done more d...<i>Seriously, the War on (Some) Drugs has done more damage to the fabric of American liberty and the Bill of Rights than any other single factor, shows no sign of letting up, and yet bring this fact up to any Law 'n' Order Republican and they just snort and dismiss the issue with "Libertarians just want to smoke pot."</i><br /><br />I just ask them which constitutional amendment grants the Feds the authority to regulate "drugs".perlhaqrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920117742664645165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-85330748793921084682013-10-27T07:34:03.443-04:002013-10-27T07:34:03.443-04:00For the longest time I was one of those who though...For the longest time I was one of those who thought "you just want to smoke pot" when I heard "libertarian". The reason? Everyone I knew who espoused libertarian values interrupted their own diatribes with bong rips.<br /><br />Also I didn't hate cops, authority figures, and assorted bullies as much then as I do now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-28446265352163746662013-10-27T02:56:53.128-04:002013-10-27T02:56:53.128-04:00The "War on Drugs" was a scam from the g...The "War on Drugs" was a scam from the git-go. It was the noble cause dreamed up by lawyers & politicians to keep the money rolling in indefinitely. They had (have) no intention of winning the "war on drugs" because that would cut into their cash flow. If they actually wanted to stop illegal drug use in the U.S., they could do it in relatively short order. Execute drug dealers and smugglers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-4784783767481070982013-10-27T00:32:44.628-04:002013-10-27T00:32:44.628-04:00Matt: Agreed.
I am unwilling to give up my rights...Matt: Agreed.<br /><br />I am unwilling to give up my rights to try to save someone from that gutter if they obviously belong there.Kristophrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08370888276707569365noreply@blogger.com