tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post8722707016675070857..comments2023-11-10T04:17:00.492-05:00Comments on View From The Porch: Gimme the snow any day.Tamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-39701962552014568732011-02-05T16:22:20.762-05:002011-02-05T16:22:20.762-05:00The key to salt is that it should be put down Befo...The key to salt is that it should be put down Before the ice comes.TheSevnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-3710717066553974112011-02-04T22:58:10.080-05:002011-02-04T22:58:10.080-05:00Get some of this
http://www.amazon.com/DRIVEWAY-H...Get some of this<br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/DRIVEWAY-HEAT-ICE-MELTER-9-5/dp/B001DKJWL4<br /><br />You should be able to find it locally. My folks had a hard time selling it at their hardware store until Dad demonstrated it on some particularly tough ice. The pellets practically bore a hole down through the ice. A little bit goes a long way too.Hat Trickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08789313677285831256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-3175327529062498642011-02-04T18:48:13.730-05:002011-02-04T18:48:13.730-05:00You need to have one of these stores local to you ...<a href="http://www.harborfreight.com/propane-torch-with-push-button-igniter-91037.html" rel="nofollow">You need to have one of these stores local to you ... west coast thing.</a><br /><br />They will ship, however.Kristophrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08370888276707569365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-80662999066078836912011-02-04T17:23:45.660-05:002011-02-04T17:23:45.660-05:00I've had the best luck with cold, crisp, relat...I've had the best luck with cold, crisp, relatively thick ice. Give a sharp vertical blow with the ice chopper about 3 inches back from the cleared area. It will shatter straight down, and break a good sized piece loose. Sometimes it's necessary to turn the chopper almost horizontal at pavement level and give a jab to physically move it afterwards.<br /><br />This method doesn't work well with spongy or soggy ice.Loki1776https://www.blogger.com/profile/13853962658466345401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-30949356795130688692011-02-04T16:43:05.191-05:002011-02-04T16:43:05.191-05:00I like the black trash bag idea....might have to t...I like the black trash bag idea....might have to try that on my front porch....<br /><br />For jobs like Tams....liberal aplication of ice melt and sand repeatedly (every couple hrs for a day) and then attacked with an ice chopper or appropriate shovel or hammer before the sun goes down. And possibly repeat for day 2. the only method I've found that works.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11924993310937754220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-50390521636236700772011-02-04T16:10:20.340-05:002011-02-04T16:10:20.340-05:00I didn't notice the steel handle on that one. ...I didn't notice the steel handle on that one. The ones I've seen locally (and the one in my garage) all have wooden handles. You're right, steel is the wrong material for this purpose. Actually, it's probably the wrong material for the handle of any long handled yard tool.Loki1776https://www.blogger.com/profile/13853962658466345401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-77506718746697291092011-02-04T15:56:28.024-05:002011-02-04T15:56:28.024-05:00loki1776: And I thought the nylon (or whatever it ...loki1776: And I thought the nylon (or whatever it is) handle on my axe was cold, when wielding it outside in the chill. I'm amused at the thought of putting a steel handle on something specifically designed to be used in freezing weather. :)perlhaqrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920117742664645165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-85543910207867801462011-02-04T15:34:39.532-05:002011-02-04T15:34:39.532-05:00I got one of these after a similar icemageddon.
--...I got one of these after a similar icemageddon.<br />-----------------------------<br /><br />The MUTT(Multi-Use Tough Tool) <br />One of the most versatile tools available, the MUTT has a 4"-wide tempered steel blade with 54" kiln-dried ash handle for added durability. Use for cutting, chopping, scraping, digging, pruning, ice removal, sod cutting, shingle removal, tile removal, or trenching. Used by professionals, city, state and county agencies, contractors, farmers and gardeners, and anybody with a tough job to tackle.Lergnomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08718650151254462639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-80851191168455911182011-02-04T14:17:47.089-05:002011-02-04T14:17:47.089-05:00Ice Chopper
Every store in Indy is probably sold ...<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Bully-92200-Sidewalk-Chopper-Handle/dp/B000PAQEKU" rel="nofollow"> Ice Chopper</a><br /><br />Every store in Indy is probably sold out. With the right type of ice and the proper technique they're surprisingly effective. It's still a lot of hard work.Loki1776https://www.blogger.com/profile/13853962658466345401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-34091438067370283122011-02-04T12:48:15.778-05:002011-02-04T12:48:15.778-05:00Tam,
We had only an one inch or so. The hammer wa...Tam,<br /><br />We had only an one inch or so. The hammer was key to establishing a toehold. I actually used a sledge. I welded it butter-churn style on the scattered salt chips. <br /><br />This broke up the chips and made a crack in the sheet of ice. Then the salty water wicked itself between the ice and the walkway. It worked incredibly well;. YMMVStandard Mischiefhttp://standardmischief.com/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-72202062192558847372011-02-04T12:38:00.205-05:002011-02-04T12:38:00.205-05:00If you've any sunshine let mother nature work ...If you've any sunshine let mother nature work for you. Unroll dark lawn bags the length of your sidewalk and let the plastic absorb the sun's energy.<br />Last Feb. we had a 7+ foot pile of snow at the corner impeding vision. A neighbor draped a dark blue sail from his Hobie-cat over it at it was gone days sooner than other, smaller piles.Stretchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-41401299587597427052011-02-04T12:24:04.495-05:002011-02-04T12:24:04.495-05:00I'm still not allowed to do anything strenuous...I'm still not allowed to do anything strenuous. I'm thinking Driveway, C4, bucket.Home on the Rangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03836315423040719919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-30375977068682939832011-02-04T11:25:31.160-05:002011-02-04T11:25:31.160-05:00We got hit with the same thing here. 1-2 inches o...We got hit with the same thing here. 1-2 inches of ice coating everything. I'm responsible for keeping 1/4 mile of sidewalk safe, and like have 1 guy to help. Like the other northerners have said, lots of salt, sand, salt,time and salt (a little sun helps) is the only think that works. It was in the mid teens yesterday. Salted the crap out of everything at dawn. Did it again at 8am. Did it a 3rd time around 9:30 or so. By 11am 75% of it could be scraped up with square shovel or spade. Hit the rest with a 4th application of salt and took the rest up after lunch. Yea, it took 8hrs to do it, but there was less then 2hrs of labor. Yes, the salt damages the lawn and the sidewalk. Yes, that's acceptable instead of someone falling and knocking their noggin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-789295247332255722011-02-04T11:03:47.991-05:002011-02-04T11:03:47.991-05:00The salt is not melting through the ice. We have a...The salt is not melting through the ice. We have a good solid 2+ inches of glaciation on the walks. Cars do not leave tire tracks on the street as they go by...Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-68916756902300668822011-02-04T11:01:49.428-05:002011-02-04T11:01:49.428-05:00I took rock salt, chipped off from one of those wa...I took rock salt, chipped off from one of those water softer salt licks, and scattered that on the ice.<br /><br />Round two was a hammer. This crushed the matchbox sized salt chip into the ice.<br /><br />I let that sit for about twenty minutes, The salt melted through the ice and started working on the underside. I took a square-point shovel like you did and was able to get it between the ice and the driveway. I broke mine and my neighbors' driveway up in about a half hour.Standard Mischiefhttp://standardmischief.com/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-91601402350692986842011-02-04T10:43:30.322-05:002011-02-04T10:43:30.322-05:00Five gallons of kerosene and a road flare.
GerryFive gallons of kerosene and a road flare.<br /><br />GerryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-2756275702360027722011-02-04T10:02:59.362-05:002011-02-04T10:02:59.362-05:00Sand mixed with your favorite fertilizer, perferab...Sand mixed with your favorite fertilizer, perferably one starting with 0. The middle number - phosphate is a salt, as is the last number potash. Both will lower the reezing point of the ice and will give you added fertility at the same time. The first number is nitrogen and should be kept as low as possible. So a little 0-46-0 or 0-0-60 will melt the ice and help the lawn or flowers too without giving them a Nitrogen OD when it warms up. Also the ash and clinker from your wood stove is great too. That is the raw material for pot ash.<br /><br />wv: pubson - his old man owns the tavernLeaddognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-24302602409657323452011-02-04T09:56:51.947-05:002011-02-04T09:56:51.947-05:00If you want get a presher bottle fill with windshi...If you want get a presher bottle fill with windshield washer fluid spray liberally it will dissolve the ice like it wasn't there. <br />Most of the windshield and radiator fluids are nontoxic now days but make sure dont want to harm the pets. <br /><br />JoshJosh Kruschkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288700371539530398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-65648810926014340192011-02-04T09:47:17.017-05:002011-02-04T09:47:17.017-05:00The other guy from MN seconds Blackwing's salt...The other guy from MN seconds Blackwing's salt suggestion. There really isn't a lot that you can do with the glare ice freezing rain puts down. Killing yourself swinging a hammer and mini-cracking the sidewalk underneath isn't worth it.<br /><br />Put the salt layer down first and cover with a layer of sand or kitty litter to keep people from suing. Apply time (harder than it appears).<br /><br />This will get you by until the temps crest 15 F and the salt really gets going.aczarnowskinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-2062432615367932342011-02-04T09:41:51.753-05:002011-02-04T09:41:51.753-05:00Primacord?Primacord?John Hardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02465149724793433817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-49974934364322148742011-02-04T09:39:41.363-05:002011-02-04T09:39:41.363-05:00Why bother, some sand , some salt, and patience un...Why bother, some sand , some salt, and patience until things warm up in a week.<br /><br />Unless you like the exercise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-79045277904609997742011-02-04T09:38:54.596-05:002011-02-04T09:38:54.596-05:00I like my war hammer but Cold Steels Spetznaz shov...I like my war hammer but Cold Steels Spetznaz shovel would work better for hacking thru ice. (It's cheap on amazon.)<br /><br />http://www.coldsteel.com/spshovel.htmlMad Saint Jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-23928382149445067502011-02-04T09:38:47.487-05:002011-02-04T09:38:47.487-05:00Might I suggest a ballpeen hammer?
Use the rounded...Might I suggest a ballpeen hammer?<br />Use the rounded end and a pair of shooting specs and beat the snot out of it.<br /><br />If you pretend you're breaking kneecaps it's even more fun.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-62527442454050513872011-02-04T09:35:49.241-05:002011-02-04T09:35:49.241-05:00I haven't been able to find the Youtube video....I haven't been able to find the Youtube video. :(<br /><br />:)Tango Juliethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593296126387219845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15907727.post-41730233289560394812011-02-04T08:55:51.651-05:002011-02-04T08:55:51.651-05:00There was an advantage to working at a brewery. I...There was an advantage to working at a brewery. Industrial pumps, 1.5" hoses, and the ability to boil thousands of gallons of water had its charms.<br /><br />You'd be surprised how much hot water you need to get through all that ice.New Jovian Thunderbolthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09452246769246304612noreply@blogger.com