In one of the forums I frequent, a poster has offered up the old "Oh, these modern times suck! Ah for a return to times of yore, when the world was better!"
In this case, he was focussing on S&W revolver trigger pulls, claiming that all the new ones are wretched and things were so much better in the old days. Now, I currently have... let's see... over forty S&W revolvers, ranging in age from a .32 Double Action Third Model made in 1883 to a Model 431PD made in 2004. A couple of dozen more have passed through my collection over the years. I've been in the retail end of the gun business since 1993. I regard myself as qualified to offer a considered opinion on the topic of S&W wheelguns.
Here's the deal: The out-of-the-box trigger pull of a new Smith is about what it's been since I can recollect. (Which is to say "Unsatisfactory." No factory gun has a good trigger. If you think one does, you have low expectations.)
Marko and I were contemplating a new Model 520 when he commented "The trigger pull on this thing just doesn't compare to my old Model 10."
I replied that the new gun hadn't been dry-fired 50,000 times over the last 30 years, either, which will tend to have a certain smoothing effect on the action.
If you are lucky enough to run across an old S&W wheelgun that is truly "Unfired, In Box", see if you're allowed an experimental dry-fire or two. I think its trigger pull may be a little heavier and grittier than you'd expect.
"No factory gun has a good trigger. If you think one does, you have low expectations."
ReplyDeleteI will disagree with you with two examples, one being a Smith & Wesson. My Kimber Stainless Custom full-size 1911 has the finest trigger I have ever pulled - and I bought it new-in-the-box. My S&W M25 Mountain Gun (.45LC) has an excellent trigger - but I bought it used, so it's possible someone had it massaged before I got it.
V"I replied that the new gun hadn't been dry-fired 50,000 times over the last 30 years, either, which will tend to have a certain smoothing effect on the action."
ReplyDeletethe sharp knife of sound logic.
So that means I should do about 49,000 more dry fires before my new snub trigger is as nice as the old model 10 that's as smooth as butter?
ReplyDeleteI guess I should invest in some snap caps.
Why not?
ReplyDeleteI dry-fire either my 296 or 432 CCW guns 50 times with each hand every night. It has noticeably improved the 432's trigger pull, and with the laser grips, it's great training for maintaining good trigger control...
That's an interesting experiment. I've got a truly unfired 64 (zero soot or scratches on the cylinder face) that's more than 30 years old that I could try it with. Might have to put tape on the cylinder first to keep from getting a turn ring.
ReplyDeleteAnd yeah, I agree. People talk about S&Ws having a trigger pull that's so much better than Rugers. I know bupkis about Rugers but I can't imagine buying a new S&W and not getting a trigger job.
"People talk about S&Ws having a trigger pull that's so much better than Rugers. I know bupkis about Rugers but I can't imagine buying a new S&W and not getting a trigger job."
ReplyDeleteRuger tends to use heavy springs throughout their actions; look at the primers after shooting them in a Ruger, and you can see that the firing pin whomps the bejesus out of it. It is like they are afraid it might misfire. You can sometimes replace the spring, or just do some light polishing inside with a Dremel and a buffing wheel. I have several Rugers, and have no real complaints about them.
for the marlin comment, while you ae at it did you fix the infamous marlin jam? Thats the only problem with marlin, and my pull on my rifle is pretty fine
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