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Saturday, May 05, 2007
Boomsticks: While gadgets are cool...
...it doesn't matter how much you paid for the optic or what groovy features it has; if you stick it on the gun backwards, everyone will know you're a poser.
Mongo let armorer set up weapon. Mongo just follow orders from bosses at Big City Pee Dee. Big City Pee Dee no like guns anyway. Mongo just pawn in game of life.
Took me a minute, don't usually look at ARs aith whizz-bang high speed low drag stuff on 'em. Aint the AimPoint/ACOG seeinnadark/hittemevertime nifty optics on BACKWARDS???? Thad
It's an aimpoint, no night vision. And it is on backwards. One would think having the on/off/brightness control way out there facing the muzzle end of the weapon would be something of a tip off, but oh well... :)
I'm having a deja vu! Sometime, a couple of years ago, somewhere, I don't remeber whether it was GT, TFR or THR, there was a picture posted showing an all-dresses-up LEO with an EBR and the Aimpoint mounted backwards.
The officer in the photo actually replied to a post about this a few years ago.
He was issued the weapon as is ... he knew the optic was on backwards, but couldn't do much about it. No one in the NYPD armory had even bothered to try to sight it in, obviously.
So the question is, are any of their rifles sighted in? In some sort of engagement with the NYCPD, all you have to do is stand 50 yards away, smile and wave, and throw sharp sticks.
Remember, they're the only ones trained enough to posses guns...
And if I were issued a weapon that I KNEW was unusable in its current configuration/condition, I would demand a replacement on the grounds that using that weapon was endangering my life, and the lives of those around me. If someone wanted to bitch me out about it, "I need to talk to your supervisor"...
Personally, if I was issued a weapon with the optics on backwards I would either have the armourer fix his mistake, or I would fix it. It ain't the armourer's life. THe final responsibility lies with the person at the sharp end.
The officer was no doubt giddy with relief that he was issued loaded magazines for the rifle. Expecting working accessories would be too much to expect.
Then again, if I knew my superiors and the City Fathers were going to throw me under the bus everytime there was a controversial shooting, I might request the empty magazines.
Alas, this is far from the only time that I've seen a LEO carrying a nonfunctional weapon. The last time was on a local range. Her glock was getting light primer strikes. She had absolutely no idea what to do about it and was calling the department armorer on her cell. I recommended a detail strip and clean as there was probably gunk in the striker channel. I walked away wondering how long the pistol had been in that condition.
"The officer in the photo actually replied to a post about this a few years ago.
He was issued the weapon as is ... he knew the optic was on backwards, but couldn't do much about it. No one in the NYPD armory had even bothered to try to sight it in, obviously."
You know, I think that's even worse.
Ignorance, after all, is fairly easy to cure. Take the gentleman to the range, point out how his rifle is worthless due to the error, show him how to fix it. Stupidity, on the other hand, is much harder to fix, and _knowingly_ taking out a weapon that you can't aim qualifies as stupidity no matter how you try to spin it.
At range yesterday two uniformed, armed (gov't agency) officers occupied the adjacent lane. One teaching other to shoot. Started at 3 yards and not doing so well. Aren't you supposed to learn this before being issued the weapon?
Chuckle...snort...giggle...
ReplyDeleteMongo let armorer set up weapon. Mongo just follow orders from bosses at Big City Pee Dee.
Big City Pee Dee no like guns anyway.
Mongo just pawn in game of life.
Took me a minute, don't usually look at ARs aith whizz-bang high speed low drag stuff on 'em. Aint the AimPoint/ACOG seeinnadark/hittemevertime nifty optics on BACKWARDS????
ReplyDeleteThad
anon- yup.
ReplyDeleteIt's an aimpoint, no night vision.
And it is on backwards. One would think having the on/off/brightness control way out there facing the muzzle end of the weapon would be something of a tip off, but oh well... :)
You can't buy skill.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately it is better to be cool than right.
ReplyDeleteIf only his brains were as big as his biceps, eh?
ReplyDeleteYeah, you can't buy steroids for your brain, neither
ReplyDeleteI'm having a deja vu!
ReplyDeleteSometime, a couple of years ago, somewhere, I don't remeber whether it was GT, TFR or THR, there was a picture posted showing an all-dresses-up LEO with an EBR and the Aimpoint mounted backwards.
Maybe it's a different picture of the same guy?
I'm pretty sure it was this pic, and I remember seeing it here.
ReplyDeleteThe officer in the photo actually replied to a post about this a few years ago.
ReplyDeleteHe was issued the weapon as is ... he knew the optic was on backwards, but couldn't do much about it. No one in the NYPD armory had even bothered to try to sight it in, obviously.
So the question is, are any of their rifles sighted in? In some sort of engagement with the NYCPD, all you have to do is stand 50 yards away, smile and wave, and throw sharp sticks.
ReplyDeleteI dunno.
ReplyDeleteMaybe they should issue them bayonets?
If they sight them in and they can't shoot they still wouldn't be able to hit you.
ReplyDeleteThese are your biceps on steroids.
ReplyDeleteThis is your brain on steroids.
Mike
Remember, they're the only ones trained enough to posses guns...
ReplyDeleteAnd if I were issued a weapon that I KNEW was unusable in its current configuration/condition, I would demand a replacement on the grounds that using that weapon was endangering my life, and the lives of those around me. If someone wanted to bitch me out about it, "I need to talk to your supervisor"...
Clearly that guy hasn't taken that weapon to the range in a while. At least not since that optic was mounted to it, if EVER.
ReplyDeleteWhat the hell was he gonna do if he had to fire it? Spray and pray?
Personally, if I was issued a weapon with the optics on backwards I would either have the armourer fix his mistake, or I would fix it. It ain't the armourer's life. THe final responsibility lies with the person at the sharp end.
ReplyDeleteThe officer was no doubt giddy with relief that he was issued loaded magazines for the rifle. Expecting working accessories would be too much to expect.
ReplyDeleteThen again, if I knew my superiors and the City Fathers were going to throw me under the bus everytime there was a controversial shooting, I might request the empty magazines.
Alas, this is far from the only time that I've seen a LEO carrying a nonfunctional weapon. The last time was on a local range. Her glock was getting light primer strikes. She had absolutely no idea what to do about it and was calling the department armorer on her cell. I recommended a detail strip and clean as there was probably gunk in the striker channel. I walked away wondering how long the pistol had been in that condition.
"The officer in the photo actually replied to a post about this a few years ago.
ReplyDeleteHe was issued the weapon as is ... he knew the optic was on backwards, but couldn't do much about it. No one in the NYPD armory had even bothered to try to sight it in, obviously."
You know, I think that's even worse.
Ignorance, after all, is fairly easy to cure. Take the gentleman to the range, point out how his rifle is worthless due to the error, show him how to fix it. Stupidity, on the other hand, is much harder to fix, and _knowingly_ taking out a weapon that you can't aim qualifies as stupidity no matter how you try to spin it.
At range yesterday two uniformed, armed (gov't agency) officers occupied the adjacent lane. One teaching other to shoot. Started at 3 yards and not doing so well.
ReplyDeleteAren't you supposed to learn this before being issued the weapon?
Ermm ... this is NYFC.
ReplyDeleteAs a street cop it would not be his issue weapon.
He was probably handed that weapon on the spot. Not a lot of choices at that point ... either take the FUBARed weapon, or go home for the day.
I'm not sure, Vogrin, but I think the point is that his superiors would have a fit if he "modified" the rifle to make it usable.
ReplyDelete(On the plus side, at least it shouldn't interfere with the iron sights, I suppose.)
I just visited Aimpoint's site and opened the manual for the CompM2.
ReplyDeleteThat's actualle the right way to mount it on the rifle of a left-handed shooter!!!
See:
http://www.aimpoint.com/upload/products/manual/Manual_M2ML2_inplastad_10590-2.pdf