The usual bunch of thumb-suckers, crybabies, and wet blankets are rallying to block the move, and coming up with the usual grab-bag of hilarious quotes to back their case. For instance, when it was pointed out that under current Ohio law it was peachy keen for the Five-Oh to have a beer in Hooters while strapped, the Buckeye State Sheriff's Association countered with
...it was OK for officers to be in bars because they are better trained.Okay, then. I did not know that they had a special course on "getting liquored up while going heeled" at the police academy. I'm impressed. Maybe they could share the course syllabus with us here in Indiana so we could make it mandatory for IMPD officers.
The better trained lie again.
ReplyDeleteIt's like they're not even trying any more.
Didn't the Magnacarta make the law apply to the king? Oh right thats old stuff and we don't have kings anymore, do we?
ReplyDeleteFirst off - IMPD needs to provide courses on driving while drinking before they venture out into drinking while strapped. Let's concentrate on where the need for improvement exists, OK?
ReplyDeleteSecond - Look at us yahoos in Virginia. For years we could carry openly and drink. Now we have the option to CC, but if we do we aren't allowed to drink. This new option is only 2 months old, but no blood in the bars, and the OC option (since 1995) has had hardly any blood spilled (there's always gonna be someone to be the exception, isn't there?).
Are Ohio folks that much less able to control themselves than Virginians? Or folks from other states where carry in places they serve booze done so without regular Friday night recreations of some western movie saloon shootout?
Didn't Charlie Askins shoot at Camp Perry one time when he was all mellowed out on Old Granddad?
ReplyDeleteYeah, Askins is one of those people I'm very comfortable meeting on the other side of the pages of a book.
ReplyDeleteHe might as well have had "Don't Try This At Home, Kids" tattooed on his forehead.
I have never understood why some states are perfectly fine with me driving to the bar, having a beer and DRIVING home, but if I have a gun strapped to my hip it's OMG!!11ONE breaking the law.
ReplyDeleteIn Colorado, if you are legal to drive you are legal to carry. Maybe that's too simple or something.
A lot of the old timers who were great Bullseye shooters felt and preached that a hangover was the best cure for match nerves there ever was...
ReplyDeleteAll The Best,
Frank W. James
What the bed wetters do not understand it that just because one can carry where alcohol is served does not mean one will or even wants to drink. Here in TN every establishment that serves alcohol is a "restaurant" according to our State Beverage Commission. So if one wanted to go into Ruths Cris for a steak one would have been illegal until this year. Now the bed wetters are trying to get OSHA to say it creates an unsafe working environment. And cops are no better at gun handling skills than many civilians.
ReplyDelete"And cops are no better at gun handling skills than many civilians."
ReplyDeleteMost, mehbee....
"What the bed wetters do not understand it that just because one can carry where alcohol is served does not mean one will or even wants to drink."
ReplyDeleteIt's not that they don't understand, it's that they don't want to understand. When you try to tell them, the response is, almost invariably, "But what is there to stop them? How is the bartender supposed to know?" Then they go right back to assuming everybody with a gun is going to Olive Garden for the sole purpose of getting drunk - without assuming the same of everybody with a car in the parking lot.
"Thumb suckers" - I'm filing the serial numbers off that one right now.
ReplyDeleteStay safe
jimbob86,
ReplyDeleteMuch as I hate to say it, you are right about many of my fellow coppers: http://www.tulsaworld.com/20100612_14_A8_Aforme386912
A drunk with a gun is a drunk with a gun. I can't imagine many civilian CCW permit holders getting totally snockered and then pulling their gun for being cut off from any more booze.
Tam,
ReplyDeleteYou might propose a labeling campaign - require any and every establishment and venue that has any restriction on CCW to posts signs:
Warning!
Disarmed Victim Zone!
Mass Shootings Occur
in
Disarmed Victim Zones.
Management Takes No Responsibility
for Mass Shootings.
I believe that there was a time when some long-range European bullseye shooters would get absolutely stinking before shooting, as it helped make for a steady hold (not to the point of seeing everything twice, you understand)
ReplyDeleteFurther, I have heard of people dosing themselves with propanolol as a means of doping-cheating at shooting matches.
WV: aintne. Ain't me, neither.