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Friday, April 26, 2013
Progress...
Got the DeltaPoint mounted down in the slide now. Deciding how to proceed on backup irons. Got the holster's sweatguard pared down to work with the slide-mounted dot...
Tam - have you given thought to stippling that thing? If you've got a soldering iron I can whip you up a checkered post to DIY. I found mine to be much better once it had some grip.
You know, I think a RDS would actually be easier for me to conceal, as the sights are the most intrusive part of my M&P for EDC.
No need for backup irons. Leave the front sight on, if the batteries fail, just use the window as a ghost ring at any range where you need to be shooting fast, soon, and often.
I have nearly the exact same setup for my night stand gun. Also have a DeltaPoint on my M329 field/hiking .44 Mag revolver. The things are bulletproof.
Having carried weapons in places where they got banged around A LOT. I just wondered. Why all the breakables? I'm not trying for snark, I have never used holo-sights and don't understand why they are such a big deal. What advantage do they offer that makes the fragile battery dependent toys worth the risk of combat breakage, on a weapon without backup sights? Why are the as good as/better than tritium?
1) As I've mentioned before, it's a test unit. Hence "testing". Dunno. Haven't made up my mind. Still testing.
2) It's been banging around loose in my range bag with other pistols, cleaning supplies, multitools, and whatever for months and hasn't broke or lost zero yet. Batteries are still working too. I'll note when they go.
3) "...on a weapon without backup sights?" In the post above I mentioned "deciding how to proceed on backup irons." For the nonce, it looks like a 74° dovetail cut in front of the optic for a Glock suppressor sight and a Dawson Precision M&P tritium suppressor-height front will be the setup used.
4) Not many combat conditions in my house or at the range. This is, after all, the backup M&P anyway.
5) A red dot sight offers the same benefits on a pistol it does on a long gun.
Anon, I dunno about the Deltapoint, but I have an RMR on my G20 and it is seriously stout. If you get a chance, take a look at the housing on one of them sometime. Not weak.
Battery life on some of the newer red dots is measured in years. For an RMR left on continuously, it is generally recommended to replace it once each year on a date you'll remember (like your birthday, for example). That's overkill, but it will keep a dead battery from becoming an issue.
As far as a holster for my DeltaPoint-equipped G19 .... My Crossbreed SuperTuck would not accommodate the Deltapoint .... so I ended up purchasing a MTAC Minotaur ... which is basically the same holster as the SuperTuck, but cut a bit lower to handle top-mounted red dot.
Where's the "like" button? Guess it's not really a button...
ReplyDeleteBackup irons: homeboy nite sites. Optic goes flat, just flip the gun sideways and shoot gangsta style.
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Tam - have you given thought to stippling that thing? If you've got a soldering iron I can whip you up a checkered post to DIY. I found mine to be much better once it had some grip.
ReplyDeleteYou know, I think a RDS would actually be easier for me to conceal, as the sights are the most intrusive part of my M&P for EDC.
No need for backup irons. Leave the front sight on, if the batteries fail, just use the window as a ghost ring at any range where you need to be shooting fast, soon, and often.
ReplyDeleteI have nearly the exact same setup for my night stand gun. Also have a DeltaPoint on my M329 field/hiking .44 Mag revolver. The things are bulletproof.
Whoever did the Stipling on Kead's M+P did a great Job. Very comfortable yet secure to shoot. I'd go for it like Mike G. said.
ReplyDeleteSo, that pic is "down in the slide"?
ReplyDeleteHave to admit the pistol sized optics are neat.
A fellow club member let me try his 1911 with .22 conversion he'd set up with the Delta Point to shoot speed steel.
I was quite impressed but they're still too ungainly for us front pocket carriers.
That is an impressive looking M&P!
ReplyDeleteThanks Bubblehead! A cohort at the range did it. He also makes Kydex holsters.
In related news, Tam admits being a progressive!
ReplyDeleteHaving carried weapons in places where they got banged around A LOT. I just wondered. Why all the breakables? I'm not trying for snark, I have never used holo-sights and don't understand why they are such a big deal. What advantage do they offer that makes the fragile battery dependent toys worth the risk of combat breakage, on a weapon without backup sights? Why are the as good as/better than tritium?
ReplyDeleteLooks like things are coming together well! :-)
ReplyDeleteAnon 9:08,
ReplyDelete1) As I've mentioned before, it's a test unit. Hence "testing". Dunno. Haven't made up my mind. Still testing.
2) It's been banging around loose in my range bag with other pistols, cleaning supplies, multitools, and whatever for months and hasn't broke or lost zero yet. Batteries are still working too. I'll note when they go.
3) "...on a weapon without backup sights?" In the post above I mentioned "deciding how to proceed on backup irons." For the nonce, it looks like a 74° dovetail cut in front of the optic for a Glock suppressor sight and a Dawson Precision M&P tritium suppressor-height front will be the setup used.
4) Not many combat conditions in my house or at the range. This is, after all, the backup M&P anyway.
5) A red dot sight offers the same benefits on a pistol it does on a long gun.
I have to say, even with tritium irons having an optic like that could be VERY nice in bad light conditions.
ReplyDeleteAnd from what you're saying, and Defens above, it's holding up well. Question: has it been dropped?
Firehand,
ReplyDelete"Question: has it been dropped?"
No.
Anon, I dunno about the Deltapoint, but I have an RMR on my G20 and it is seriously stout. If you get a chance, take a look at the housing on one of them sometime. Not weak.
ReplyDeleteBattery life on some of the newer red dots is measured in years. For an RMR left on continuously, it is generally recommended to replace it once each year on a date you'll remember (like your birthday, for example). That's overkill, but it will keep a dead battery from becoming an issue.
It's kind of a truism that height is the biggest dimension to consider for belt concealment (thickness is up there too of course).
ReplyDeleteCould you compare and contrast how it carries in your normal wear compared to standard sights?
Matthew,
ReplyDeleteNot carrying it. Backup gun. Test unit. Range bag. No irons yet?
When/if I get to the point that I am confident enough in it to carry it, I will be certain to post about how it carries.
I was thinking around the house, not for realzies.
ReplyDeleteEven just strapping it on to see if the sight causes immediately obvious issues in wear or draw.
As far as a holster for my DeltaPoint-equipped G19 .... My Crossbreed SuperTuck would not accommodate the Deltapoint .... so I ended up purchasing a MTAC Minotaur ... which is basically the same holster as the SuperTuck, but cut a bit lower to handle top-mounted red dot.
ReplyDelete