"Might as well put a long barrel on that shotgun,"
Why? What would it do, other than add useless weight, alter the pressure curve of the gas system, and assuage your wounded sense of aesthetics? ;)
"That top fuel dragster would never win a rally car race!"
"You could never hit a Major League fastball with that nine iron!"
"I'll bet that screwdriver really sucks at driving nails!"
That shotgun is as it is for a reason: It is dealing with conflicting demands of being fast and shootable, yet having enough ammunition capacity to avoid reloads as much as possible, since reloading a tube magazine shotgun on the clock eats time like no other activity.
Some shooters use Saigas as the base for their open shotguns, but they are a lot harder to get running reliably; a broke or malfunctioning gun will burn more time than having to thumb rounds into a tube.
Commander_Zero,
Yeah, some of the open guns are crazy long. A few guys run those X-rail mag extensions (http://www.xrailbyrci.com/xrailinfo.php) but I can't imagine the kind of forearm strength it would take to swing one of those around. What sadist puts up stages that need 16+ rounds of shotgun in the first place?
Probably Tactical division, rather than Open. The new hotness in Tac division these days is to have a 12-round tube. That way you can start with the division-legal 8+1 at the buzzer, then quad-load four more rounds before getting on with the shooting.
having stuffed my Benelli thru wire link fences, slat fences, and small, oddly shaped holes in walls, I appreciate the barrel being there to add some protection, especially under recoil. Mag tubes tend not to be very tough, and it doesn't take much of a dent to take it out of action.
Yeah, I know it's a gamer gun, and if I was designing a shotgun stage, I could probably render that setup totally useless.
High round count stages? I think one stage ran about 25 of buck, two slug, and finished with about the same number of handgun. Maybe the same stage designer is still at work, twenty years later?
What can I say? All the people who get paid to shoot 3 Gun seem to think it's the berries. Maybe you could design that stage to show Ken Pfau just how wrong he is about his choice of shotguns.
Obviously, he's not wrong in his choice, if it works for whatever category he is using it in. Actually, I'm thinking it would be practical for dove shooting in South America. Not that I've done that, so I'm not positive.
I guess I'm a bit puzzled that the rules don't cover having parts protruding beyond the muzzle. Except bayonets, of course!
Why are those pens on the table? Are they tactical?
ReplyDeletePrize table?
ReplyDeleteTactical water bottle. Check. Hydration of champions.
ReplyDeleteRick C,
ReplyDeleteIs game. Is not tactical.
Drang,
FNH product table at the dog & pony show on media day. That's one of FN's sponsored guys' raceguns.
That shotgun looks like some sort of ballistic Staff of Gandalf. What is it, four- four-and-a-half feet long?
ReplyDeleteMight as well put a long barrel on that shotgun, to protect/support that magazine. That thing really looks dumb as is.
ReplyDeletewv: matbatt 12. Nah, worthless as a bat, too fragile.
Will,
ReplyDelete"Might as well put a long barrel on that shotgun,"
Why? What would it do, other than add useless weight, alter the pressure curve of the gas system, and assuage your wounded sense of aesthetics? ;)
"That top fuel dragster would never win a rally car race!"
"You could never hit a Major League fastball with that nine iron!"
"I'll bet that screwdriver really sucks at driving nails!"
That shotgun is as it is for a reason: It is dealing with conflicting demands of being fast and shootable, yet having enough ammunition capacity to avoid reloads as much as possible, since reloading a tube magazine shotgun on the clock eats time like no other activity.
Some shooters use Saigas as the base for their open shotguns, but they are a lot harder to get running reliably; a broke or malfunctioning gun will burn more time than having to thumb rounds into a tube.
Commander_Zero,
Yeah, some of the open guns are crazy long. A few guys run those X-rail mag extensions (http://www.xrailbyrci.com/xrailinfo.php) but I can't imagine the kind of forearm strength it would take to swing one of those around. What sadist puts up stages that need 16+ rounds of shotgun in the first place?
What's the suppressed long gun in the middle?
ReplyDeleteKK,
ReplyDeleteThat's rest of the blue SCAR from yesterday's post. :)
Probably Tactical division, rather than Open. The new hotness in Tac division these days is to have a 12-round tube. That way you can start with the division-legal 8+1 at the buzzer, then quad-load four more rounds before getting on with the shooting.
ReplyDeleteSee, I pile of pens and think "Those are the prizes I'd be getting..."
ReplyDeleteTam,
ReplyDeletehaving stuffed my Benelli thru wire link fences, slat fences, and small, oddly shaped holes in walls, I appreciate the barrel being there to add some protection, especially under recoil. Mag tubes tend not to be very tough, and it doesn't take much of a dent to take it out of action.
Yeah, I know it's a gamer gun, and if I was designing a shotgun stage, I could probably render that setup totally useless.
High round count stages? I think one stage ran about 25 of buck, two slug, and finished with about the same number of handgun. Maybe the same stage designer is still at work, twenty years later?
Will,
ReplyDeleteWhat can I say? All the people who get paid to shoot 3 Gun seem to think it's the berries. Maybe you could design that stage to show Ken Pfau just how wrong he is about his choice of shotguns.
Obviously, he's not wrong in his choice, if it works for whatever category he is using it in. Actually, I'm thinking it would be practical for dove shooting in South America. Not that I've done that, so I'm not positive.
ReplyDeleteI guess I'm a bit puzzled that the rules don't cover having parts protruding beyond the muzzle. Except bayonets, of course!