They're talking about firearm exclusion zone laws. Like the ones that prevent concealed carry in government buildings, schools, and other public places.
"Trusting your safety to gun free zone signs is about as effective as sitting on a chair in the middle lane of the freeway and trusting drivers not to hit you..."
In Colorado, the "No Weapons" signs in the theater means that management can ask you to leave if they determine you are carrying a weapon, and you may be arrested for trespassing if you do not leave on the request of management.
So, do not open carry. Carry concealed - very concealed. Keep your fingers dry and grease free. Do not buy the soda, candy and popcorn. You wouldn't want your fingers to slip when needed.
As you can observe, the under two minute response time by Aurora Police once they were contacted was not much help for the 12 killed and 71 wounded, but may have helped the rest of the people in the area. A lot can and did happen in that two minutes.
Two minutes response seems pretty good. What, exactly, starts that clock -- originating the call to 911, or 911 contacting the officer? What stops the clock -- a vehicle stopping at the reported address, or actual contact with the person placing the 911 call -- or contact with the assailant? Or even "control" of the "situation" (i.e., no one remains at risk, needed assistance has been rendered, etc.)?
Two minutes from the time a patrol car hears the alert until arriving at the theater isn't the same time that elapsed from when the shooting started until it was stopped.
I am sure getting the "two minutes" time into the media avoids some finger pointing about response times. But fiddling the statistics to avoid criticism doesn't go far toward evaluating what the citizen on the street can expect to observe. I just hope that in this case, two minutes was the time from the start of the call for help, until officers entered the building.
Coffee. LOTS of Coffee.
ReplyDeleteHope you didn't lose too much tzadziki sauce when the gyros went over...
ReplyDeleteDark Knight. Colorado. Damn those "disarmed victim zone" laws.
ReplyDeleteBrad K...that's the first thing I thought too...
ReplyDelete> Damn those "disarmed victim zone" laws.
ReplyDeleteWhat law(s) are you talking about?
They're talking about firearm exclusion zone laws. Like the ones that prevent concealed carry in government buildings, schools, and other public places.
ReplyDeletePlease do try to keep up.
@Brad K: there's enough food blogging at Tam's and Bobbie's that I automatically pronounced the word as yeeroz when I saw it just now.
ReplyDeleteTook me 28 hours of constant travel time (witha a few hours of layover time) to get back from my last trip.
ReplyDeleteHarden Up!!!!
We need our daily dose of Tam!
Tam, a thought for when you wake up...
ReplyDelete"Trusting your safety to gun free zone signs is about as effective as sitting on a chair in the middle lane of the freeway and trusting drivers not to hit you..."
(I quoted myself)
Dann in Ohio
Glad you're back okay, and Aurora is truly sad...
ReplyDeleteHope you enjoyed your visit to the West.
ReplyDeleteIn Colorado, the "No Weapons" signs in the theater means that management can ask you to leave if they determine you are carrying a weapon, and you may be arrested for trespassing if you do not leave on the request of management.
ReplyDeleteSo, do not open carry. Carry concealed - very concealed. Keep your fingers dry and grease free. Do not buy the soda, candy and popcorn. You wouldn't want your fingers to slip when needed.
As you can observe, the under two minute response time by Aurora Police once they were contacted was not much help for the 12 killed and 71 wounded, but may have helped the rest of the people in the area. A lot can and did happen in that two minutes.
Two minutes response seems pretty good. What, exactly, starts that clock -- originating the call to 911, or 911 contacting the officer? What stops the clock -- a vehicle stopping at the reported address, or actual contact with the person placing the 911 call -- or contact with the assailant? Or even "control" of the "situation" (i.e., no one remains at risk, needed assistance has been rendered, etc.)?
ReplyDeleteTwo minutes from the time a patrol car hears the alert until arriving at the theater isn't the same time that elapsed from when the shooting started until it was stopped.
I am sure getting the "two minutes" time into the media avoids some finger pointing about response times. But fiddling the statistics to avoid criticism doesn't go far toward evaluating what the citizen on the street can expect to observe. I just hope that in this case, two minutes was the time from the start of the call for help, until officers entered the building.
Brad, two minutes form when the police heard the shooting, they were already there doing crowd control for the lines.
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