Hundreds of youths have set fire to cars and attacked police and rescue services in poor immigrant suburbs in three nights of rioting in Stockholm, Sweden's worst disorder in years.I dunno... The EUtopians may seem all soft, docile, and toothless right now, but the recent immigrant welfare sponge class is playing with fire here. Euros have a proven zero-to-jackboots time lower than just about anybody on the planet. Get Gunter or Pierre all backed into a corner and feeling existentially threatened and you'll be wishing you hadn't, faster than you can say "Arbeit Macht Frei".
(And if and when nationalist parties do take over and dust off the banners and jackboots and whatever happens, happens... well... the liberal leftists who discouraged assimilation and encouraged welfare subsidies, the very factors that created these ghetto islands of alien discontent, will have nobody to blame but themselves.)
While they WILL be to blame; they will be the last to see that - and they will NEVER acknowledge it.
ReplyDeleteThat's certainly Mark Steyn's theme in his writings on the subject. They don't call it "clash of civilizations" for nothing.
ReplyDeleteLTC Ralph Peters said it a couple of years ago, "When the Europeans finally get pissed off the muslims will be lucky to get deported."
ReplyDeleteSend in the Caroleans!
ReplyDeleteHoly Moley! I just got off the phone with my wife, having this discussion almost verbatim!
ReplyDeleteAs you said before; when it comes to killing undesirables, we do our business in a cottage industry fashion and the Euros make a (dis)assembly line out of it.
Where is El Cid when you need him, anyway?
ReplyDeleteI had the same thought when hearing about the British soldier that was killed in "merry" ole Engalnd. Strutting around claiming to do it for Allah was a very good way to turn the locals completely against you and all like you...
ReplyDeleteIt's coming here too, folks, except we have at least three civilizations in conflict.
ReplyDeleteWell, it looks like my relatives in Hungary are polishing their Boots. Seems the Uber-Socialists who run the EU are not Happy that an Elected Government decided to bring up a new Constitution that pretty much trashes all the wonderful Utopian Ideas of the Communist Manifesto. And it all passed with an Honest Vote of at least 2-1.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, they also decided to trash Jews, Gypsies, Communists.....
And the UKIP (United Kingdom Independent Party) did VERY well in the latest English Elections. And their Goal is NO EU.
Oh, and the new Iceland Gooberment just announced that they'll get around to Voting on whether to even THINK about joining the EU somewhere down the road.
So do you think that maybe, just maybe that some people in Europe have had it with Propping up Welfare Countries like Spain, Italy, Prtugal, et.al.?
And being told that they can't do something because some Brie-Eating Nanny-Stater tells them that such things are Bad and Politically Incorrect?
Yep, looks like Changing Times are happening over there.
And they're going back to the "Good Old Days" of Pogroms, Cossacks, Box Cars....
It's clear to me that the Pope needs to resurrect the Knights Templar. There just hasn't been a good Crusade lately.
ReplyDeleteYup.
ReplyDeleteThe socialist imported a bunch of islamic proles, hoping to have a better tax base, and a larger pool of entitlement driven voters.
Didn't quite work as well as they planned, when they brought their religion with them, and the socialist nancies were too multi-culturalism-aware to force their kids into assimilation.
Interesting times ahead in Europe. It will be a race between the mullahs and the hitlers. Too bad they can't both lose.
The liberal leftists will be too busy lacing up their jackboots and unfurling the nationalist banners to blame themselves. They always ride whatever wave will bring them or keep them in power.
ReplyDeleteI think this is going to be a wild summer.
ReplyDeleteLCB,
ReplyDeleteThe "response" will be a bunch of drunken yobs setting fire to a Hindu or something.
Here's the best assessment I've read so far;
“This incident illustrates, if nothing else, the endpoint of the social engineering of the West. It has been remarkably effective. From a certain point of view the British crowd behaved perfectly and this is the way “they” all want us to behave. The populace sheltered in place, didn’t do anything rash, talked to the perpetrators as people. They waited for the police to come and the hospital helicopter to take the corpse away. Some will doubtless get counseling to overcome their shattering experience.
And then they will congratulate themselves on how tough British society is; resilience and all that. The more caring will leave some flowers by a railing and hold a few candle vigils for healing and peace, until these wither and blow away and the news cycle washes up a new object of attention.“
http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2013/05/22/the-manhood-of-the-west/
Islam is to men as rabies is to dogs.... per W. Churchill.
ReplyDeleteYeah, it is gonna be a barrel of fun. Best things is several problems are going to get solved at one time.
ReplyDeleteNot only Muslims but Gippoes too- they're a huge drain on the social services, responsible for most petty crime etc.
Once you are in the cleansing mood, the trucks are running and there is plenty of pits ready..
Yup. Interesting times ahead, no doubt. Just hoping EU is going to have some sort of half-assed army ready so no pesky humanitarian killjoys would attempt to gatecrash the fun.
Boat Guy,
ReplyDeleteThat's terribly depressing to read. I'd like to think that our cousins across the pond will recover what once made them a great nation...and grow some bullocks.
Sad to say...but I see us traveling down the same road...only ending in a civil war or complete collapse with everyone fighting to stay alive. Maybe not in my lifetime...but almost certainly in the life of my children and grand children.
Anon 1246,
ReplyDeleteShut up, Nazi.
> clash of civilizations
ReplyDeleteIf only it were so. The troublemakers among the Euro-immigrant underclass are barbarians living off of the edges of civilization and resentful for not receiving more merely for having a body temperature above ambient. We have similar, both immigrant and home-grown, in this country.
> turn the locals completely against you and all like you...
I am resigned to the near certainty that in a few days some conniving politician or some genuinely befuddled true-believer of an ass is going to pontificate on how those "poor men" in England were driven to hack that man to death because of social inequity or whatever. And some idiots are going to believe him.
What is so tragically sad is that there is much to be said for liberality (no, not leftist Liberalism) and tolerance, yet those claiming to espouse those virtues are miserably failing to defend them, ironically in the name of "culturally sensitive" tolerance.
Had lunch with a Swede yesterday, by coincidence, and her distress over the fact that back home politically it seemed to be a choice between spineless appeasers and all-but-skinheads was very evident.
Don't hold your breath. The Euros are gelded, no mistake.
ReplyDeleteMike James
I wonder how long it will take the Swedes (and I suppose Britain also) to adopt the French Solution to the burning car/civil unrest problem? Seems to "work" very well indeed; outreach efforts by restive members of the religion of peace is never in the news from France these days. How long must the ordinary people of these other EUtopias struggle under the burden of divisive and unsettling "stories" being bruited about by communications oligarchs and wreckers, I ask you?
ReplyDeleteMike James,
ReplyDelete"Don't hold your breath. The Euros are gelded, no mistake."
In 1929 Berlin was famous for Bauhaus art and transvestite cabaret. In 1939 it was best known for being the return address on Himmler's arrest warrants.
I have long thought that there's an excellent chance that Europe will have its Dependent Classes, that it has made over the past decades, up against machineguns sometime in my lifetime.
ReplyDeleteI'd like to be wrong (in that I'd like it to not get that far, and ideally roll back to a culture of assimilation, not in that I'd like to see an Islamist Europe).
But I'm not sure I will be.
I dunno, Tam. Your history is accurate, but I think the point that so many in Europe (and here) have been indoctrinated for at least two generations to passivity and dependence that the Euros may just wind up as the Eloi for the Islamists.
ReplyDeleteThe ONLY Euros I've encountered who were otherwise were in their hobbled armed forces - and by no means were all of the Euro military folk I encountered of the non-PC breed. The exception may prove the rule but they were certainly in the minority. Few of those (if any) will rise to positions above Field Grade.
This is the social mood part of Elliott Wave Theory in real time. And it is occurring everywhere. The old "new paradigm" is breaking down along with financial markets. Can't we just get along, don't worry be happy, I'm OK you're OK, we're all OK, I feel your pain, and it takes a village are falling to the side. Tar and feathers, rope and lampposts, and fu#k you are becoming vogue. If you have been a "problem" child since the 60's your world is about to be rocked. And you damn well better be prepared.
ReplyDeleteI think Boat Guy has a good point. It's been a generation since the Euros have even had the worry of the Soviets visiting via the Fulda Gap. 1929 was only half a generation past that wee dust-up quaintly termed "the war to end all wars". 1939 was driven by participants of that mess, all intent on a rematch with a different outcome.
ReplyDeleteI expect it will have to get a lot uglier over there, before they finally end up doing something constructive. They don't have the knowledge or experience base to get up to speed on fixing the problem. I project much floundering about by all concerned. Should be entertaining, in a train-wreck sort of fashion.
And all of it can be laid at the feet of the liberal/socialists. When they screw up, they don't bother with half measures. Big question is, what this will do to socialism over there?
It’s not good to equate Swedish neutrality with Swedish pacifism. The Swedes popo have been playing the Viking card more and more with trouble makers.
ReplyDeleteThere has been a growing problem with both unassimilated Islamic and eastern Europeans immigrants for at least 15 years.
The days of claiming “I’m a political refugee, let me in!” have been over in Sweden for a while.
Gerry
@Windy Williams: El Cid was a mercenary, spent much time working for Muslims, and many of his troops were Muslims.
ReplyDelete"@Windy Williams: El Cid was a mercenary, spent much time working for Muslims, and many of his troops were Muslims."
ReplyDeleteCorrect, Drang. I'll take Charles Martel any day. Or Señor Sobieski...
One of the things I have taken away in my study of history in seminary classes is that there are periods of decades and generations of tolerance and peaceful coexistence that literally turned to burning people at the stake within less than five years. This pattern has happened multiple times, including pre- WW2 Europe. It can and probably will happen again.
ReplyDeleteOh, and the history around 1570 has the Muslims as the tolerant ones.
Man, I love your "zero to jackboots" formulation.
ReplyDeleteBoat guy and Mike James have it nailed. The Hunkies will burn their Gypsies or scare them away, the Serbs will take back at least northern Kossovo when the EU defaults, but Western Europe is done for.
ReplyDeleteThe rural French will fight, possibly resulting in some large scale deportations from Frogville, but the Brits, Germans, and Belgians are finished. I work with Mittel Europeans every day, and have family in Britain.
There's nothing there except surrender. Germans laugh at jackboots, most Moslem women in Spain are native Spanish (former) Catholics who converted to find a man willing to marry them and start a family, something few Western European men even consider anymore.
American students in Britain are required to take courses in not defending themselves in case of attack. Supposedly, complete submission is the only way the police can tell the victim from the perp, and they give you lots of money if you're hurt, raped, or crippled.
The Belgians have legalized Sharia for Moslem areas, along with the Swedes, the most gutless people in Europe. Which is saying something.
There are no babies. What little work they can get out of the Moslem entitlement class is better than nothing. There was a sad joke going around Germany a few years ago. Something about Germans not caring if the country croaks as long as there's a Turk to push their wheelchair until they die.
Germany has shut off the power and water to major areas in it's south-east, essentially abandoning large parts of the country. Scandinavia and Spain aren't far behind.
Almost 90% of Scots take more government largesse than they pay in taxes, compliments of the oil fields in the north sea (which are well past peak production). As the wells become more expensive to pump, cheap American and Canadian oil will displace whatever they can still extract.
Half of all Spaniards under 30 are on unemployment more or less permanently, and enjoying every well paid moment of it.
Birth rate essentially equals death rate, meaning a continent that is rapidly aging. Combine the retired, welfare recipients, and "refugees" and there are 3 Euros working for every 2 deadbeats. And it gets worse rapidly as the Boomer generation leaves the workplace. Peak year is 2021.
Ireland, Switzerland, Poland if they can maintain their borders, some of the mountainous regions of France, that's about it.
The Irish are the only one of the PIIGS countries to do the austerity thing and make it work, and they're an energy independent island that exports massive amounts of food, plus they have the computer business by the short and curlies.
The Swiss for obvious reasons, and the Poles and possibly the Baltic republics because they're halfway to Americans and have a new generation with some hustle.
Ukraine is already a disaster area, and Russia will become a net oil importer in 10 to 12 years. Then they can use their nuclear weapons to try and intimidate all the starving Western Europeans. They deserve each other.
Celebrate Diversity. Or Else.
ReplyDeleteRioting is an old Swedish tradition.
ReplyDeleteThis has nothing to do with religion.
It's gangs of bored hooligan kids and criminal young adults.
Lazy kids from a generation that is used to getting everything served, absent parents, poor schools with no money and the hero-worshipping of the local criminals is to blame.
The only thing they accomplice is that they are destroying their neighbours cars and thrashing their own suburb.
The absolute majority of the Muslims living I these suburbs are decent people. Most of them as secular as the average Swede.
The extremists shouting the loudest becomes ambassadors for all the immigrants in our own and foreign media.
That is as absurd as if we were to judge the US for what the Westboro Baptist church does or gun owners for what Ted Nugent says ;)
The riots becomes a Rorschach-test.
Everybody from the racist SD-party to the leftish stone-throwing anarchists use it to confirm their own agenda
I'll hope you excuse any misspelings.
Jonas/Sweden
I think what formerly-Great Britain needs is a new Sir Charles Napier:
ReplyDelete"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."
Just re-arrange a few words to pertain to "hacking a man to death" and "shooting you in the act", they'd have it made. Given their state of utter victim-disarmament, it will never happen.
That riotous sound of nations collapsing is technically called "obamamatopoeia".
ReplyDeleteOlov, please...
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, in another part of Sweden, the locals suddenly had enough with a family of gypsies who had been stealing, vandalizing, letting their 13-year olds drive around in the family car etc. Solution? Gather mob, go to their house, flip the car over, "establish presence" (ie imply a threat). Eventually the cops had to be called in to protect the gypsies, who were eventually evacuated. I don't think they'll return.
ReplyDeleteJonas,
ReplyDelete> Rioting is an old Swedish tradition.
As an American I'll leave it to you as to whether rioting is a Swedish tradition, but stipulating that you're correct, how sad that it's apparently the ONLY Swedish tradition those people (I know how that sounds; that was not an accident) have picked up.
You make good points regarding absent parents, a culture of having everything served up to you, and adulation of criminality (thug rap anyone, the way "pimp" has become a positive term in the vernacular !!!) and those are problems we also have in the US. (And we've had our riots as well.) But the problem is that many of the correctable causes of the poverty etc that leads to the rioting (poor education and functional illiteracy, not to mention inability to use the standard spoken language; loss of work ethic; loss of family structure*) which are class/economic/educational issues, have been conflated with race and ethnicity, and therefore become intellectual and public-policy "no go" areas. Personally I think excusing barbarism with "Well, it's their culture and ought to be respected" is not only cowardly but incredibly condescending. It implies that those being "culturally respected" are incapable of doing better. Here in the US we got rid of legal support for segregation, for example. By the Liberal logic, it was a charming white-person folkway that needed to be respected, because it was part of "their culture."
* I don't care if it's a father and a mother, two mothers, or a father and a dog (yeah, you, Santorum) so long as someone is there to provide some stability and structure in the kids' lives.
Geodkyt
ReplyDeleteIm talking about the riots in Sweden. Not of the horrendous act in the UK. There are only one way to deal with cowardly terrorist like that.
But by alienating and blaming all of the muslims for what the islamists do you'll only drive them in to the arms of the extremists.
Mike
Still, it's just 40-100ish kids. Not the whole suburbs. Not all muslims.
One of the problems is the swedish wellfare stat.
If you are given all you need with no conditions, you'll have kids that will riot if they don't get their Panem et Circenses.
This has nothing to do with peoples culture
Jonas/Sweden
Jonas:
ReplyDelete"islamists" are merely following their religion to the letter. They aren't extremists. Rank and file clerics praise violent religious fanatics.
"Moderate" moslems are merely those not brave enough to wield a sword.
Until Islam is forced into an Enlightenment at gunpoint, like Christianity was, they will continue to be a stupidly violent as Christian sects were in the 1600s.
This time around, if the Brits start asking us to donate our guns so they can arm themselves to defend against a Fascist invader, they can bloody well pay for them.
ReplyDeleteIIRC,
ReplyDeletethey asked for the loan of US civilian guns to arm their homeland population, and instead of returning them at the end of the war, tossed them into the Channel, or other means of destruction. Apparently, they didn't think even their allies civilians should be armed.
The English left their brains on the fields of WW One. They just THINK they won that war. Idiots.
How do we sleep while our lutefisk is burning?
ReplyDeleteAfter six days of rioting, the Swedish government has called out the police ... to protect the rioters against their victims, who are forming up to prevent these arsons:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/05/swedish-citizens-take-to-streets-to-defend-property-from-rioting-immigrants/
I'm not sure the jackboots are going to win against the barbarians here.
Jonas,
ReplyDeleteAgain, The Westboro Baptist Church jackasses stand around and shout mean things at funerals while waving nasty signs. They don't burn, steal, loot, beat, etc.
They only claim 40 members - most of them related to the leader. In a nation with a population of 315 MILLION. Hell, 40 people isn't even a really good Saturday night bar fight, much less multi-day riots in three towns. That's not even the full roster of a high school football team.
Comparisons of the WBC with ANYTHING more numerous than a single family are ridiculous.