In response to a post at MattG's, a commenter wrote "Not everywhere is Texas," to which I replied:
Have you ever tried explaining that to a Texan in the Legal section of an internet gun forum?
A post at TJICistan that linked to a brilliant dissection of errors in the movie Agora
, drew the response:(Besides, when I think of Orestes and Cyril and Hypatia, I always think of Florence King’s bodice-ripper The Barbarian Princess… :D )
(Firefox spellchecker is obviously a misogynistic tool of the Christian patriarchy: It knows “Orestes” but not “Hypatia”. :p )
I'll be here all week. Try the veal.
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"Have you ever tried explaining that to a Texan in the Legal section of an internet gun forum?"
I'm off on a trip from Pumphandle, South Dakota to East Sandalstrap, Washington, is it legal to . . .
"It is in Texas!"
I live in Indianapolis, where do I go to pick up the application for my license to carry a handgun?
"In Texas you kin jest walk down the street with it on your hip, as long as it is in the open. *pats hip*"
It seems my neighbour and I have a boundary line dispute over a fence. What do I need to do?
"In Texas, you need to shoot him."
Yeehaw!
Rootin' Tootin' Shootin' Buddy
Shootin' Buddy has eloquently pointed out that not only can folks get tunnel vision about their own state's laws when talking to denizens of other states, but they can also misquote the law in their own state. (There's no open carry in Texas, generally.)
Ye olde haw.
MattG,
I believe that what he was getting at, albeit in his own Dale Carnegie sort of way.
During one of his trips to Kerrville, the TX variety of the American Gun Store Oracle (an incredibly varied species, breathtaking in its ignorance from Anchorage to Augusta,) told him that his FL non-resident toter's permit was no good in TX, but you don't need a permit if you just carry it on your hip!
Gun Stores: America's #3 Source of Legal Misinformation! (After internet forums and Law & Order.)
Gun Stores: America's #3 Source of Legal Misinformation! (After internet forums and Law & Order.)
Where are the popo on that list? #4? I've had told to me in ye olde gunn shoppe that the law in question was told to them by a fine member of The Only Ones. Hmm... (Granted, it was about Texas' knife laws, not gun laws, but from my reading of them, are fairly straightforward. 5 1/2", single edged, folder or fixed doesn't matter. Guy behind the counter swore the cop told him that such-and-such pocketknife they sold was illegal for carry in Tx, despite me trying to explain the simple limits of that law. I guess it just shows that Officer Friendly is just there to "enforce" the laws, not know them all by heart or rote.)
Matt, I believe the police are tied at #7 in the worst gun info rankings with "my brother's neighbor's cousin".
Dig this, just after the Oracle Behind the Counter told me about the open carry requirement in Tejas, a whole bunch of guys that looked and smelled like cops walked in. The gun store was next door to a hotel which was hosting the "Texas Sheriff's Association Chief Deputy Annual Meeting".
There was my skinny ass dressed in gun school gear with a baja shirt barely "concealing" a 1911. I was kind of nervous as I am rather blase about concealment and this carries over when I travel.
The Texas cops all looked at me, and then my baja shirt and then said . . . absolutely nothing about my pistol, but did notice that my speech pattern was slightly odd for those parts (somehow they were able to determine that I was not local--must have been detectives). They then asked me about deer hunting in Indiana (of all things).
I've heard some great ones all over the country as good Counterpersons are hard to find. We have all suffered bad Counterpersons. Heck, just ask Tam, aka Bill Ruger's granddaughter, about how she loves being told "you sure do know a lot about guns." I like to repeat it sometimes in the car with my front teeth properly exposed when I say the line.
Shootin' Buddy
As an NRA Handgun Instructor, I'd like to have a dollar for every student who reported their county sheriff telling them, "After you shoot him, drag him inside before you call me."
I'd buy a new Super Pistol.
Of course I have. ;)
As an NRA Handgun Instructor, I'd like to have a dollar for every student who reported their county sheriff telling them, "After you shoot him, drag him inside before you call me."
I know a retired Detroit cop who would add, "but make sure there are no bloodstains and drag marks leading to your door."
He investigated a case where a shopkeeper supposedly dropped two burglars with a shotgun as they smashed the back door and stepped into the shop at oh-dark-hundred. The cops didn't question why the shopkeeper was waiting with a shotgun. They weren't dismayed by how one of the burglars had somehow turned to get hit in the back. But the evidence out in the alley showing that he had been shot fifty feet away and dragged back was a bit too much...
I'd put the police further up the list from my experience here in MA.
I've had cops tell me that LEO marked magazines were okay to own "because the ban expired" (It was extended - by Mitt RINO Romney - in 2004 in MA).
I've had cops tell me that the Assault Weapons Ban started covers guns made after 1998 (that's the Approved Firearms Roster, which deals with Pistols).
I've had cops tell me that a NH resident can bring a gun into MA without a permit (only if they're going to a shooting event).
I've had cops tell me that hollowpoints are illegal except for LEOs (only partially true in NJ, not in MA).
Hell, I've had cops tell me that MA doesn't issue CCW permits. This came as news to me, as I was carrying at the time...
I understand they can't know every aspect of every law. It would be nice, though, to not give advice that directly contradicts state law and could make someone a felon...
Some delicious weapons grade snark for you: http://docstrange.livejournal.com/73024.html
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