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Learned that one long ago when you could buy surp .303 Brit on strippers for a couple of cents a round, loaded with real, long, stringy cordite.MCdinosaur
You also need to avoid those old Tapco stripper clip copies like the plague.They are made with somewhat loose tolerances, and have a tendency to jam up even if you load them correctly.For best results, buy genuine combloc blued or stainless clips, followed by those Chinese soft brass copies ( they work OK for a while, they were meant to be disposable, similar to the Swiss cardboard and brass strippers ).
The internet has a way of taking your "look how clever I am for figuring something out!" and making it "oh, I was the last person to notice?"GRIN
Umm... Anyone else read that as "how to work a Mormon stripper" and had a serious brain jam there for a moment?No?Uhh... I'll just get me coat then.
Or load them any way you want in one of the late model Finnish Moisins, which had an interrupter dingus to pop the top round free of the clip for a legitimate single feed. Grampa showed me the "stack every rim in the clip in front of the one below it" trick when he showed me how to work an Enfield bolt knob with thumb and the curve of the trigger finger, while popping the trigger with the bird finger in rapid fire. A handy trick when the Boer cavalry hit the wagons at Oh Dark Thirty. Always used it with the Moisin too, when I got one. Though I suspect that if the British had fought the Russians large scale, Ivan would have taken a serious hurting. Not a rapid action to manipulate, the old Mosin doorbolt.
Thanks for posting the link to the M-N stripper clip howto. I could never get them to work right, until now. The cartridge interruptor seems to work better in theory than in practice.For the previous commenter: Lee-Enfield clips should be loaded two-up, three-down. Not like the M-N clips.
Tony: I would assume that a Mormon stripper is one who stops when she's down to the union suit.
That post on the Mosin stripper clips was pure unfiltered awesome. I now look forward to hauling that thing back to the range in April (when the back doc says I can shoot cannons from my shoulder again).
ALL Mosins have the cartridge interrupter. The patent claims that this is to ensure constant effort to close the bolt. More cynical observers note that it seems to be a complication added to dodge Mauser and Mannlicher's patents on box magazines.All it is supposed to do, is to take the follower pressure off the topmost round in the magazine. It does do this on all our of mine.The Finns developed a 2-piece one to make making them easier.
SCrew your stripper clips! I want a map showing where the lunch wagons are were I live, not some tourist-trap town like Indianapolis. The government ought to get right on that, 'cause it's gonna be lunchtime real soon!stay safe.
Dave Markowitz:Yes, the Lee-Enfield clips are supposed to be loaded two back, three up, according to the field manuals.That's primarily so that they can be inserted either end up. They also seem to strip slighly easier into the magazine that way.however, I have always find that they are even more reliable, and it is far easier to run the bolt smoothly on No4 Mk1s and No1 MkIIIs when I load them "rim over rim" so each round has its rim in front of the next round down. As long as you have tight clips (so the rims don't shift out of position) and load them "slanty down, parallel up".Of course, with the SMLE family of rifles, you CAN run the bolt like Og the Destroyer, which will force feed rim-bound cartridges (such as when loaded "by the book".) But, since I've found that I can fairly readily tell which end of an asymmetrically loaded clip should be down, only use tight clips, and don't rely on my No4s as primary combat arms, I do just find loading them like a Wunderlander Herrenvolk beard.Gave up on Moisin Nagant clips, because all I have is a bucket full of crappy repros. . . it's faster to load individual cartridges than deal with those turds, and short of buying ComBloc milsurp spam cans pre-loaded on clips (which I haven't actually seen in person since starting to look), I am not comfortable trying to identify "good" M-N clips versus the utter dreck.
That cartridge interrupter's main job is to prevent an improperly loaded previous round from locking up the rim of the cartridge that is about to be chambered.The Krag did not ... and it is possible to load cartridges into a Krag in such a way ( overlock the rims ) to make every last one off them jam.
"just fine" vice "just find"
So I checked, and AIM Surplus has 147 grain 7.62x54R at $69.95 for a 300 rnd.spam can, with everything loaded in stainless steel or plated strippers. Interestingly, all the ammo is loaded into the clips asymmetrically, rim over rim. I'm thinking Grampa knew what he was about.
"Despite owning, like, a bunch of Mosins, I Did Not Know This."I am stunned: as little experience as I have with Milsurps, I Did Know This, and Lady Tam Did Not. Not as Newb as I thought I was.....
There's a French patent for the thing and it declares that it's for even feeding pressure not to stop rim-lock. Bad translation from French to Russian to French to English perhaps?The Finns modified the magazine body a bit to help the interruptor do the job. They even called it a "jam proof" magazine and early ones are marked with an HV (Finnish for jam proof).
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