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Government is simply the word for those things we choose to do badly together.
Thanks T.Moore, does the phrase "Divine Providence" mean anything to you? And don't you just Love it when One Anti-Gunner talks to another Anti-Gunner as an "Expert" in the so-called "National Conversation?"
Some one should tell Michael Moore about the modern uses of Leecheshttp://sciencenetlinks.com/science-news/science-updates/modern-leeching/And while he's using the rights granted (etched in stone ) two hundred something years ago to disparage the 2nd Amendment; he should take a moment to look up the word hypocrite.
Have we "kinda evolved" with regard to the first amendment also Mr. Moore? If so, then I nominate you to be the first to be prosecuted for seditious acts.
They also use maggots when someone has a large amount of dead flesh, the maggots won't eat live flesh. It seems that some of that medical technology from 200 years ago is making a comeback. Fatboy Moore almost makes me ashamed to tell people I'm from Michigan. That idiot couldn't buy a clue. And Piers Morgan makes me sick. He hates our rights, yet our money is just fine with him. Who ever thought he would be a good replacement for Larry King should be fired.Ice-t, Tom Selleck, Joe Montegna and a few others are some of the few I respect in Hollyweird. Most of them are gun hating hypocrites. They use guns in their movies to make millions and then ban our weapons when some nutbag goes off the reservation.
God, how many bags of ice do you think they had to use on Mikey's chins to make it look like he has a neck? or is he actually being shot from overhead so he's looking straight up, stretching the skin like that?
Not to mention that it isn't a stone tablet. There is a very clear way to change the central law of the republic and it was last done only 20 years ago. The majority of the voting population was alive at the time and still can't seem to remember the process. Fortunately, the media can't mediate the convention.Chad
I love how "requires ratification by 2/3rds of state legislatures to change" is somehow the same as "written by god himself." There's a reason there are 10 commandments but 27 amendments to the constitution.
Had to watch it twice to catch it, but he states that there's more people siding with Ice T than the Antis. I love how lefties are all about, "the people have spoken!" up until it's something they don't like.
1:38-1:49 in the video:I'd love to hear more about Moore's assertion that reducing the guns and ammo is proven to reduce violence. Please show us one location where that has proven to be true. Or are we talking about only the reduction in "gun violence" but ignoring all the rest of the violence that goes up dramatically? How about it, Mikey?
WTF world does Moore live in??? Sigh
Good point Mr. Moore. Times change.I will be waiting for your attempt to repeal the second amendment via amending the constitution, since you feel it is obsolete.I wonder how many folks will line up with you to urinate on that third rail?
Shrimp:I'd love to hear more about Moore's assertion that reducing the guns and ammo is proven to reduce violence. Please show us one location where that has proven to be true.That's the part that stuck with me, as well. Citations? Evidence? ANECDOTAL evidence? Anything? Ah, your wattle has quivered, and it's good enough, yeah?I'm afraid I have a hard time taking the word of a propagandist at...well, at anything. I might be inclined to agree there might be some truth somewhere in what he said after vigorous scientific exploration, testing and confirmation that the sky is indeed blue. But even then I'd be skeptical.JSG
Who ever thought he would be a good replacement for Larry King should be fired.I've always thought so too. Inviting an irascible Brit to replace the even-tempered King on a popular show that discusses (occasionally) matters of national importance smells like subversion.
When did Ice T become a voice of intelligence and reason? Sure, he wants to kill the Po Po, but he's right, mostly. The 2nd amendment is about tyranny and not just .gov verses the citizenry, but tyranny of one or a group over a another.
Once again the Michigan fat boy has shown his contempt for those who can't fleece the public for millions of bucks for slanted polemics.Keep it real, T.
Larry Pratt was on with Piers (the Limey wanker git) Morgan and being an LWG, he really, and very rudely, layed into Pratt. Pratt kept his cool very well and stayed on point despite the LWG's foolishness. That's the thing, we've got rationality, facts, manners and tenacity on our side. All they've got is emotionalism, vulgarity and huffy pseudo-intellectualism. We'll win in the end.
Link to Morgan/Pratt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FVQgLkbLjQ
Ice T is smarter than I gave him credit for. Piers, when acknowledging there are more people siding with Ice T rather than Moore or Morgan, is less delusional than I gave him credit for, especially after seeing that 'debate' with Larry Pratt. And Moore is just as stupid and pandering as I've always felt about him.
Ice T has always given great interviews. Dude's super deep and always interesting, even when I disagree with him.
"How do we deal with the 'Constitutional divide' over how that is interpreted?"Idiots! I'm outof patience with their being deliberately obtuse.The way you deal with it is you go back to the source and you read what it says. No "interpretation" required unless you still want to make the clear and plain language of the Second Amendment - and the others - mean less AND more than what is said.You could even (gasp) read the Founding Fathers' letters where they themselves had this discussion. Although it would probably be counter-productive for anti-gunners, since those self-same letters make it perfectly obvious that the Amendment was meant to be unrestricted and to apply to all.Of course, unlike most lawyers, I went to schools where you had to pass Reading & Comprehension in order to graduate. Notably, one of my courses was "How to Write Clearly", and the texts we had to deconstruct were those prepared by lawyers, judges, and other woefully indequate "writers".
"Ice T is smarter than I gave him credit for."I think a lot of successful people -- not just rich and famous, successful -- are smarter than they look. On topic, I'm reminded of a thought I had earlier today: Removing guns from the picture doesn't remove the criminals. It just weeds out the dumber, less creative ones who can't be bothered to come up with another way to cause mayhem. This is not a good thing.
You don't come up out of the 'hood to inspire an entire genre of music and build a zillion-dollar career in entertainment if you're not pretty damn sharp.Nothin' but love for ya, Ice. :)
Wow Tam, putting video with one of the worlds most successful lairs (has made a lot of money by lying) is almost like trolling for comments :)Ice-T was excellent. There are moments when I think Moore actually believes the crap he spouts, but then, look at where he lives. He's either one of the biggest hypocrites in the world, or one of the most deluded progressives. Or both I guess.
There are rifles that are advertised as able to bring down a commercial airliner at a mile and a half? Hunh.I mean, the guy's a politician, surely he'd never lie to make a point...
perlhaqr,Worse, he's just that ignorant, but his iron tower of ego won't let him realize that he knows less about this than a serf like you.Further, he knows just as much about salt and soda cups as he does about sniper rifles.
Somebody tell MM that we revere the Constitution because it was written by a bunch of guys that were WAY smarter than anybody that is cuyrrently interested in changing it!
And the leeches comment reminds me of POTUS and his bayonet comment during the debates
And, honestly, Ice-T is from both Newark and Los Angeles. And for all that there are black politicians and public figures who make a living out of race-baiting, it's important to acknowledge that the LAPD (among others) really was pretty astonishingly institutionally racist up until the reforms that happened in the wake of the Rodney King trial. You had a 95% white police force patrolling 99% - 100% black neighborhoods, and being treated like and behaving like an occupying army.It's really not particularly shocking that someone intelligent who grew up in that environment would grow up seeing guns as a tool explicitly for protection from the police and the government.
I always find it interesting when Canadians and Brits want to tell Americans how they should live there lives.OK,I lied. I don't give a rats ass what they think.Gerry
"written by god himself." Hey Mikey vox populi vox deiAnd shouldn't you be busy trying to get your (armed) bodyguard out of the NYC slammer? Bodyguard: "Hey, I'm a celebrity bodyguard. See? I've got a California AND a Florida CCW."Po-Po: "How very interesting. You're under arrest."
moore, bloomberg and piers what a collection of idiots to talk about gun control! They know absolutly nothing about guns! yet they are experts on everthing liberal! who does this network think we listen too ? Its darn sure not them!!Walt
Gerry, recently had a guy from Ireland inform me that 'the rest of the world' just doesn't understand how we can be so insane as to not ban guns, and did I know how this makes us look to 'the rest of the world'?He was not at all pleased when informed that the rest of the world can kiss my ass, we do NOT change or ditch our rights just to make the 'rest of the world' happy.
Actually, Michael Moore, we do still use leeches in medicine. It's called biosurgery and is unbelievable effective. Not many people push my buttons like Michael Moore does, but he's a special kind of stoopid.
Why dont that FF MM go live in the nice safe haven of Chicago where theyhave a Total Gun ban you know its very safe there they have only had a few killed 294 between 1st Jan 2012 and July the 24th just Rembember its a total gun ban unless you are part of the Democrat Upper ESTABLISHMENT.
And my respect for Ice T just went through the roof. It's easy to forget that he's an intelligent, well-spoken gentleman sometimes.
Actually, I think gun crime did go down in Australia and England when they banned guns.Violent crime went through the roof, though.Funny how the mass media likes to quote the one statistic, but NEVER the other.
Ice T did nail it quoting Thomas Jefferson: “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”
MK: um, ...http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223193/Culture-violence-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.htmlOne city had its gun crime go up by over 500%.
Annd it appears the Michael Moore bodyguard story is from 2005. Meh. How did I miss the date on that until just now??Good thing the world is ending so nobody sees my embarrassment.
"There are rifles that are advertised as able to bring down a commercial airliner at a mile and a half? Hunh."Yup. Of course, Bloomers is the one behind that "advertising", and it's more like anti-gun propaganda, but still...
What I find great about the droll and laconic Mr. T's comment is that those smarmy twits think he's a thug when he and we know he's a patriot.
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