View From The Porch: The joy of discovery.

Thursday, September 24, 2009

The joy of discovery.

I'm not sure ACORN's really thought this through.

17 comments:

perlhaqr said...: Oh, this should be amusing.; 9:53 AM, September 24, 2009
Jay G said...: I love this part:

"Defendants James O'Keefe and Hannah Giles, conservative activists posing as a pimp and a prostitute seeking advice on setting up a brothel with underage girls from El Salvador, recorded the videos in Baltimore and three other cities."

I like how "conservative activist" comes before "setting up a brothel with underage girls from El Salvador".

In the eyes of the MSM, take a guess which is more shocking...; 10:07 AM, September 24, 2009
Tangalor said...: Wow. Imbeciles. Now they're screwed, because they'll have to fork over sensitive information that pertains to the case, which could negatively affect them, their cause, and quite possibly the president.

I'd like to think they're idiots, really I do, but I'm sure someone has had to of thought of that. So, Cui Bono?

And I think I hear shredders in the background.; 10:13 AM, September 24, 2009
Tango Juliet said...: ACORN's everything those who are paying attention know it to be.

However, they'll still be welcome at the Federal trough 2 years from now.; 11:03 AM, September 24, 2009
Brian Dale said...: Tangalor's got it. The common reaction: "when in trouble, sue," is going to bite them in the ass during discovery.

Mr. President, it's time to let the nuts at ACORN see what the underside of the bus looks like. You'll no doubt already have been informed that slavery is bad.; 11:32 AM, September 24, 2009
ravenshrike said...: I'm confused as to how the anti-recording law jibes with Art. 40 of the Maryland Declaration of Rights.; 11:37 AM, September 24, 2009
Bram said...: It's called "Discovery" and the term was never more accurate.; 11:38 AM, September 24, 2009
Anonymous said...: I'm guessing the discovery won't bear real fruit.; 1:14 PM, September 24, 2009
Anonymous said...: Won't bear real fruit? Ya gotta be kidding.

Just looking at the videos, and the reactions that even importing kids under the age of consent to staff a brothel didn't elicit howls of outrage, I'd say the legal discovery process will be interesting.; 1:37 PM, September 24, 2009
Anonymous said...: I like how they were more upset about getting caught than by what they did.

Jim; 2:22 PM, September 24, 2009
Anonymous said...: Maryland is where Monica's best friend Linda recorded the sordid details of her fling with Bill. That recording was also illegal for the same resons. Charges were brought against Linda, but were eventually dropped.

I suspect not much will happen to our favorite pimp.

Samsam; 4:07 PM, September 24, 2009
staghounds said...: I'm reading the article, and laughing.

"no matter how entrapped they were". Hey, doofus, entrapment is a purely criminal concept.

"Most of the allegations concern fraudulent forms submitted by temporary ACORN employees hired to register voters in poor and minority areas. None of the allegations relate to fraudulent voting."

Because fraudulently registered voters never vote.

And my favourite, "clear violations of Maryland law that were intended to inflict maximum damage to the reputation of ACORN," the community organizer's attorney, Arthur Schwartz, said. "Unfortunately, they succeeded."

That's a great argument for damages- "The truth hurt us. Give us money and protect us from further truth disclosure."; 5:46 PM, September 24, 2009
Anonymous said...: Acorn and thought:
mutual incompatibility.

'pirds'-- luv that verification

J, t R; 8:01 PM, September 24, 2009
Roberta X said...: Tam: I seem to have misplaced my celphone, which is where I had the number for yours. Pls phone home!; 8:25 PM, September 24, 2009
Don M said...: Discovery is limited by proximity to the case, as interpreted by the judge, based on precedent. Maryland has liberal judges. I can see the limitations on discovery going to several layers of appeal.; 9:26 PM, September 24, 2009
Steve Skubinna said...: You guys are assuming that ACORN will just roll over and allow unfettered access to the files. I call bullshit. They're a freakin' ciminal organization, geniuses. By definiton, criminals break the law.

Any juicy details uncovered during discovery will be simply due to carelessness on the part of the ACORN wiseguys.; 12:36 AM, September 25, 2009
Anonymous said...: I'm not a lawyer, nor have I slept in a Holiday Inn Express lately, but I've read a few things here and there that make me a little less than hopeful that there will be some earth-shattering "discovery" here.

ACORN is suing on the grounds that O'Keefe and Giles illegally recorded conversations. It seems to me, then, that the only question is whether this is true. What grounds would O'Keefe, Giles and Breitbart have to go through ACORN's books?

Consider a hypothetical: John Q. Public sideswipes corrupt politician Rufus T. Foghorn. Foghorn sues for damages to his car. Does Public get to rummage through Foghorn's records in some sort of discovery, or is the trial confined to determining whether Public DID sideswipe Foghorn and, if so, what damages he should pay?

I deeply hope that this turns into a "QB VII"* moment for ACORN, but I'm not hopeful, ESPECIALLY in a state controlled by democrats.

Oh, and notice the CNN continues to run the ludicrous ACORN claim that "O'Keefe and Giles also attempted to capture similar videos at ACORN offices in other cities but failed."

Can you imagine the lengths to which MiniTru will go to smear O'Keefe, Giles and Breitbart AND cover for ACORN if this thing actually goes to trial?

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(*) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QB_VII; 7:43 AM, September 25, 2009