I might need glasses for 25-yard shooting.
Incidentally, I am impressed with how consistent Winchester's 9mm "Train" and Defend" loads are. This is the sort of thing I never would have realized without a chronograph.
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Monday, June 02, 2014
Range Notes...
I might need glasses for 25-yard shooting.
Incidentally, I am impressed with how consistent Winchester's 9mm "Train" and Defend" loads are. This is the sort of thing I never would have realized without a chronograph.
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You're a better shot with that short thing than I am with a 6" Glock!
Hmm.
You must not be trying their .38spl ammo. According to that page, the 130gr .38spl "train" load is 925fps, but their similar weight "defend" load is a measly 92fps. Sure, it isn't going to hardly kick at all, even in an ultralightweight snub, but dang. I just don't see how that's ever going to penetrate as it should.
Acceptable wombat accuracy.
This about the third time winchester hae tried this. Different name and packaging but I have seen at least one previous incarnation of the ballistically matched training and defense rounds with paired marketing.
Good for bullseyeing womp rats from your T16.
Nice! And I'd be damn happy with that!!! :-)
Wombat? Hell that's good enough for the Womprats back home.
chem,
"This about the third time winchester hae tried this. Different name and packaging but I have seen at least one previous incarnation of the ballistically matched training and defense rounds with paired marketing."
Do you have part numbers? I've been in the biz since '94 and I can't for the life of me remember that.
'Taint bad a tall.
Once reaching age 50 or so I started fiddling with different glasses, and it's still a bit difficult to see everything properly, like I used. For the moment I've settled on being able to focus sort of clearly on the front sight with some effort. Someone makes those stick-on apertures for your glasses, which would certainly help a lot with depth-of-field, but since I wouldn't be walking around every day with such a gizmo stuck to my glasses I figure I have to practice with what I would normally wear. -- Lyle
What's the standard deviation on that Winchester ammo, Tam?
And are you planning to drift that rear sight left a bit? You'd have been almost entirely within the black with a little offset.
Why are you shooting at 25yds? Everyone knows that gunfights only happen at 7yds or less....
Good shooting, Tam!
Maybe tighten your grip?
Pretty good. It would definitely perforate a bad guy.
*headdesk*
FML
MattG,
14.03 for the FMJ, 12.04 for the JHP.
Wow. Seriously, anything under 20 SD is very good.
And surely Paul was joking.
Right?
Right??
Well, it was a thought.
YMMV. FML? not sure on that.
I need get out and have some range time. Not sure I can even hit paper anymore.
I need glasses to see the front sights at arm's length.
Wearing them, the target at 25 yards is a blur of white against the back wall of the shooting range.
Without them, the target is in focus but the front sights are a smear of black, and I can't tell when I have a proper sight picture at all.
Yeah, that's why I shoot so poorly at 25 yards - not because I also shot poorly before my eyes needed glasses.
Ant thank goodness Texas isn't infested with these wombats and womprats everyone else is having such fun shooting!
Paul, a 4.5" group, likely offhand, from 75 feet away with a compact carry gun is a damned decent group. Grip tightening is not called for. I was asking about whether she was going to drift the sights, because that would tell me if she were going to keep the gun, which she had been firing with Massad Ayoob and other gun writers. (Like herself.)
Those are just 4" black circles.
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