Wednesday, November 23, 2011

Press Release Hyperbole...

Colt waxes eloquent in PR-speak about its new collapsible stock:
A unique Cam-Lock system is a new design feature that, when operated, securely locks onto the buffer tube like a solid stock. This Cam-Lock system completely removes any slop or play commonly inherent with aftermarket collapsible stocks as well as eliminating any movement due to wear.
Yeah, see, 2005 called; they want their Magpul CTR back.

(H/T to Unc.)

17 comments:

Fred said...

The CTR looks better too...

Bubblehead Les. said...

So Colt decided to make a "Shoulder thing that goes up?"

The Raving Prophet said...

And heck, I have two rifles with CTR stocks, and I'm still not sure exactly how the friction lock makes things that much better. Sure, it keeps the stock from wiggling around, but I've never felt that to be a serious problem.

If I had it to do over, I'd probably have saved the money and gone with the MOE.

So yeah, Colt reinvented the CTR, which is something that isn't even all that necessary unless that kind of wiggle bugs you to the tune of $35 or so (the extra cost of the CTR over the MOE).

Fred said...

The CTR's also got the QD cups though... that's a selling point for some.

TomcatTCH said...

not a colt fanboy, but the cam lock makes that stock function well on both milspec and commercial tubes.

Unless colt deleted that feature from the original Rogers stock.

Bubblehead Les. said...

Silly me! I Forgot! Colt Marketing Strategy Rule #1: If WE didn't make it, it never existed until WE made it. Rule#2: If it's been out there for over a Hundred years, but WE never made one, Rule #1 applies.

Anonymous said...

The CTR's also got the QD cups though... that's a selling point for some.

Are those bigger than D cups? I prefer B myself, but everybody's different, I guess.

Fred said...

Quadruple Ds...?

I'm with you on the sentiment though, quality over quantity every time.

Ok... I'll take my dirty mind elsewhere now.

Sigivald said...

If Tomcat's right about commercial AND military buffer tube support, that's an improvement over the MagPul.

Since I just looked, and there are two different CTRs... one for commercial, and one for military buffers.

Makes me think their system must be different, or they wouldn't need two products...

Ancient Woodsman said...

The product is the same; it's the tube diameter that is different.

Colt & milspec tubes are a slightly smaller diameter (1.145") than most other commercial tubes (1.170").

If they made only one product to fit all tubes, it would most likely be a very sloppy fit on milspec tubes.

On the bigger news, do we infer that Colt is again making commercial items with 'evil' features? Flash hiders? Bayonet lugs? Lions? Tigers? Bears?

If so, as Uncle would say, "we're winning."

aczarnowski said...

Swapping out a commercial tube is a $20 change. A stock that works on both will always be a kludge vs getting the right (cheap) part in the first place.

Aside from every collapsible I've tried pulling out beard hairs I like my CTRs.

Tam said...

Ancient Woodsman,

"The product is the same; it's the tube diameter that is different.

Colt & milspec tubes are a slightly smaller diameter...
"

Having built a dozen or so ARs an worked at a Type 07 SOT, this is the point where I give you the look as though you had slowly and painstakingly explained to me that two plus two does, indeed, equal four. ;)

Darrell said...

As hinted at above, it's the Rogers Super Stoc, isn't it?

Beaumont said...

Ah, Colt. Ten years behind, ten times as expensive, and ten per cent the marketing savvy of other gun companies.

Ancient Woodsman said...

Sorry to have offended - quite aware of your pedigree, it was not intentional. The first part was intended for some earlier comments and most definitely not you. On my end, the last sentence was the important one.

May you & Roberta have a wonderful Thanksgiving. Thank you again for keeping up with VFTP; it is a good read.

Tam said...

Ancient Woodsman,

"Sorry to have offended - quite aware of your pedigree, it was not intentional. The first part was intended for some earlier comments and most definitely not you."

I was just being a smartass. ;)

A very Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours as well! :)

McThag said...

But does 2+2=4 if the cows aren't spherical and this isn't a vacuum?

wv: potrato, one of the spellings that Dan Quayle rejected before settling on potatoe.