Thursday, September 15, 2011

New Gun... Sorta.

So I got my hands on a new heater. Or most of one. It's a French M1873 revolver. The DA trigger threw its hands up and fled the battlefield sometime in the last century and a half, leaving it single-action-only, and the Peacemaker-style ejector assembly is long gone, leaving you to poke spent cases our with a stick, but at forty bucks, the price was definitely right to add it to Miss Tam's Home For Derelict Firearms.

Now to find some 11x17mmR ammunition. (With a muzzle velocity of around 500fps, if you noticed that Pvt. Jaques was drawing a bead on you, you might be able to outrun the bullet with enough of a head start...)

26 comments:

Matt said...

Does it give you the feeling that you couldn't fight your way out of a wet paper bag, and the urge to surrender?

Chris in Texas said...

Didn't Whatshisname Actordude use a pair of these in shoulder holsters in "The Mummy"? Which kinda made sense, seeing that he was in the French Foreign Legion?

wv: sneptr. I think that was one of th Egyptian gods.

James family outpost, Iowa. said...

It is a neat looking revolver in a "son of a Webley" sort of way. Too bad about the ejector, definitely adds character to a DA revolver.
Happy hunting (for the ammo).

Tango Juliet said...

I get a Nagant kinda vibe from it.

Bubblehead Les. said...

So how many times was it dropped by the "Cheese-Eating Surrender Monkeys?" (H/T to Top Gear).

Firehand said...

Is that a brass you can form from something more easily available?

Dave H said...

Nice addition to the collection! Any idea what the muzzle energy of that round would be? Big & slow can still hurt.

Frank W. James said...

Tam: go to http://hlebooks.com/11mm73/cham00.htm. They even have books you won't find anywhere else on this thing.

Not sure if you can get the 'reloading kit' with 12 cases into the country though...

All The Best,
Frank W. James

Mister_V said...

Hey, French guns are a great value. Never fired, only dropped once...

Sport Pilot said...

http://knol.google.com/k/h-l-publishing/revive-your-antique-french-11mm-model/f03ynyjzei4d/30#

I'm wondering what rimmed rifle round can be trimmed down to work here. Thanks Tam, you've given me a research project to dabble with.

staghounds said...

Matt, Les, that is ignorant and disrespectful talk.

Almost a million and a half Frenchmen died fighting the Germans 1n 1914-1918. Twelve or so times as many as Americans.

More Frenchmen died fighting Germany in 1939 and 1940- you know, a year os so before the Americans bothered to get involved, other than to make money- than did Americans did fighting Germans during their fraction of the struggle.

Oh and you probably don't know it, but France's population at the relevant times was far less than half that of the United states.

I suspect that people like you who want to mock and degrade the services of brave men would be better served by joining Westboro Baptist Church.

Or tell these men. Don't worry, they won't talk back.

DirtCrashr said...

I love the classic lines (esp. the grip) of those '73s, but for no apparent reason, whenever I see one I can't help but think of a little french kid running around shouting Saint-Étienne! Saint-Étienne!
They even have a YouTube video if you don't get the book.

Commander_Zero said...

I've a customer with a couple of these tings. You can see them used by Brendan Fraser in the first 'Mummy' movie. My customer uses heelbased .44 Colt bullets in cut down .44 Special cases. I can get you the bullets if you wanna try reloading for this dinosaur.

Anonymous said...

Staghounds, you don't win a war by dieing for your country......LOL!

Matt said...

@ Staghounds -- blah, blah , blah.

Anonymous said...

Aw, geez, Matt, it's an entire nation of people, with governments that had a history of severe dysfunction; you gonna blame all Frenchmen back to ancient Gaul 'cos they decided to sit a recent war or two out and have lost many?

Bram said...

So they are on a bit of a losing streak since Charlamange - everyone has a dry spell once in a while.

ajdshootist said...

Im English the French have never forgiven us for Agincourt or Waterloo
or rescuing them from the Germans in
WW2 there is a joke over here.Why did the French Plant trees on the
Champs-Élysées,So that the Germans could march in the shade.

RHT447 said...

"...if you noticed that Pvt. Jaques was drawing a bead on you, you might be able to outrun the bullet with enough of a head start...)"

Or, with a sufficiently padded catcher’s mitt, return it to him with a call of “low and outside, ball one.

Matthew said...

I'd kinda like to see Uberti et al look into making replicas of these lesser known military revolvers firing modern near-equiv calibers (even if only in "Cowboy" loads).

Bring a little more diversity to SASS, Wild Bunch and the other retro gun games.

Plus be kinda cool in and of themselves.

Anonymous said...

>http://hlebooks.com/11mm73/cham00.htm

oh wow, those cases look machined, rather than drawn. Sounds like they'll work at those pressures, but that means that there's no easy parent brass out there.

.453" just happens to be a common valve stem hole for automobile wheels. Useless trivia of the day.

-SM

Henry Blowfly said...

Reminds me of the Italian Bodeo revolver of similar vintage.

European pistols at that time all had a "fashionable" look about them.

Nice pickup for forty bucks.

Mark said...

Yes Brendan Frasier used a pair of Chamelot-Delvigne revolvers in the Mummuy. Here is the link to the IMFDB page

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/The_Mummy

I still can't figure out how he reloaded them just by spinning the cylinders. I never saw him actually reload them.

Dave H said...

You don't reload movie revolvers, you just wind them up. That's how they did it in the old Westerns.

Anonymous said...

That's a far more handsome gun than I would expect. Nice find!

Antibubba

Anonymous said...

Staghounds your comment was:
More Frenchmen died fighting Germany in 1939 and 1940- you know, a year os so before the Americans bothered to get involved, other than to make money- than did Americans did fighting Germans during their fraction of the struggle.

A quick check on Wiki shows
French 85,000 (1939-40) 12,000 (41-45)
Americans in European theater 109,000
Your point on insensitive comments remain valid though