Thursday, October 20, 2011

Tab Clearing...

18 comments:

Stranger said...

A lady in Florida did leave her carry weapon in her truck. She had to tell a home invader she had to go to the truck to get her money. When she turned to face the guy, he had taken his clothes off.

The lady is a good shot. Florida State Trooper 1, naked home invader 0.

It would appear we need a fifth rule of firearms safety. Never let your life preserver get beyond reach.

Stranger

Boat Guy said...

Yeah, "carry" does have some basic connotations.
As for Sebastian's "1.0 vs 2.0" bridging the "cultures" is an important task, though if I was a member of a club that couldn't trust folks to have holstered handguns, I'd be rethinking spending time there.
I was scheduled to take an "NRA Instructor" course, had already submitted a lengthy C.V. but on arriving, when I responded in the affirmative to "Are you carrying?" I was instructed to clear my pistol and leave ALL my ammo at the desk. I decided that if we couldn't trust "Instructor" candidates not to fondle carry pieces in a classroom I was in the wrong place. Still lacking the "NRA" cachet... oh, well...
I belong to one club still but do most of my shooting at a friend's home range now.

Bubblehead Les. said...

RE: Carry Guns. Because the Law says "NO Guns Allowed", that's why. True story time. Yesterday, I had to go to my local Ohio DMV to get my annual permission slip to drive on the road for my truck. Walk up to the entrance, guess what's on the door? The NGA sign. Guess who sees a Cop in the Lobby? Me. Guess who goes back to his truck and put his weapon into the Glove Box and Locks it? Me. Guess who keeps looking at his truck while waiting? Me. Guess who is Pissed? Me. But guess who isn't willing at this time to end up at the local PoPo station? Me.

Hell, Tam, what would have happened to you a few months back when you you had to deal with Bobbie's Mom at the Hospital and someone "Made" you?

Or, you get called to Jury Duty and have to go to the Court House? In Ohio, you're technically Illegal just by pulling into the Court House Parking Lot.

Hell, you can't even go into a School in this State for a Parent's-Teacher Conference Armed. Some of the Big School Districts like Cleveland make you go through Metal Detectors like TSA.

Yes, it sucks. It REALLY,REALLY,SUCKS. I know Breda can't pack at work, or even keep her Bersa in her car, because even though it's a Library, her Parking Lot is technically Gooberment Property.

As for leaving your Gun in one's car, thinking it's safe on one's Property, well, that's Stupid, also. But some people still leave their doors unlocked, also. So now he learned a Painful Lesson, and will spend some bucks to get back to where he was. But it beats getting shot in the face with one's Gun.

I wish most States had Gun Laws like Vermont, but we don't. But hey, we can at least carry Long Guns on a Rifle Rack in Ohio. Which, in some Neighborhoods up here, would stay there about 30 seconds before one hears the sound of Breaking Glass. But that's another story.

Bubblehead Les. said...

BTW, why a Cop at the DMV? Because they only take Cash, Check or Money Orders, and one was hit awhile back by some Goblin. So, at least up here, No Guns and a Cop, "Just in Case."

Stephen said...

Important point...my stolen weapon was a 'truck gun.' My personal carry is always, always, on my belt. I break the law almost everyday.
The poor man that had his gun stolen, did lose his carry piece...I'll never understand why a person locks their personal weapon in a vehicle. Thanks, Tam.

Tam said...

Bubblehead Les,

Not to interrupt your tirade, but maybe you missed the "unsecured" part?

If my weapon needs to get left in the car for whatever reason, I wrap it in a towel and lock it in the trunk.

Tam said...

(Reason being that the Z3's glovebox is tiny, and I don't trust the lock to stand up to any force. Plus anybody with a boxcutter can break into a ragtop. :o )

Blackwing1 said...

My carry gun regularly gets put away in the little "portable vault" in my vehicle, since my employer has decided to bar employees from having firearms on company property. I guess I still consider it "unsecured" since anybody with a bolt-cutters could have it out and open in about 30 seconds.

While the employees are barred from carrying in the buildings, MN law (St. 624.714, Sub. 17, Sec. C) states very clearly that employers can't keep employees from having firearms in their vehicles.

But MegaCorp has declined to put the (required by statute) signage at the building entrances that bars VISITORS from carrying into the buildings. Curious, that complete strangers and vendors can come in with their own means of protection, but that the employees are rendered helpless by company dictat. And no, it's not practical to carry anyway in the cube-farm in which I work. I just keep an eye on the nearest door "in the event of..."

WV: "wicragun", I swear it's asking, "why carry a gun".

Odysseus said...

As far as carry guns go one of Oleg's best posters asked, "If someone kicked in your door right now could you do more than change the channel?"

It's what started me putting on my gun any time I put on my pants.

Gewehr98 said...

"Carry" is by no means a mandate, either. Just sayin'...

James family outpost, Iowa. said...

My dad, a retired Naval Aviator fell in love with my Ruger 10/22 a couple years ago. So I bought him one, scoped it, set it up like mine, and gave it to him. He was happy as a clam, took it out to his cousin's ranch, had a ball. Got home late, left it in the trunk, didn't lock the car (!?!) bye-bye rifle. Got a check from insurance, but has yet to replace it.

Tam said...

G98,

""Carry" is by no means a mandate, either. Just sayin'..."

True.

In the situation in question, however, the dude's carry gun got boosted from his car in front of his house. :( In very few states is one's house a "no-totin' zone"...

Stuart the Viking said...

Years ago, a friend of mine had a stout metal locking drawer that he bolted under his driver seat because he liked to go swimming at the YMCA and didn't like leaving his wallet etc in those flimsy lockers that they had at the local Y. I sure wish I could find one like that because it would be the perfect size for a pistol on the occasion that I go someplace where carry is forbidden by law. It would be much better than locking it in the car like I presently do. I have no idea where he got his and over the years I've lost track of him so I can't ask. There is a good chance that he made it himself though, he was handy that way.

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WV densar... The blonder the person, the densar the wit (please note I include myself).

Anonymous said...

Check out "Console Vault"; they make a semi-secure place to put your heater in a wide variety of vehicles.

I use one of those little key-lock safes, that closes around a cable. The cable loops around and through a seat mounting bracket. It only requires a good bolt-cutter to get through it, but the average car-window-buster isn't going to be hauling a bolt-cutters around with him in parking lots.

Matthew said...

Ditto on the cable-locked gun box.

Slides unobtrusively under the seat for when I can't take the gun inside somewhere with me. Good enough to prevent a smash and grab type from getting my gun in the typical car break-in.

I try not to leave guns out overnight anymore though, secured or not.

Burn me once...

Robin said...

Sportsmans Guide has an inexpensive locking box with a cable.

I won't link them since they are not paying Tam, but if you to their website and use the product code WX2-146801 you'll find it. $25.

Anonymous said...

'My customer is all happy and stuff. He smiles at the cops and ask when he may have his carry piece back...they laughed and said, "Soon."'

So, if the stolen property is a pistol, the cops keep it for a while.

If it's a 3/4 million Ferrari, they ask the owner if they can hang onto it for a while pretty please?

Beaumont said...

Here in K-town, a Maine deputy, apparently attending a class at Prof. Bass' Rotting Bodies Institute, left his issue Glock -- and his badge -- in his car overnight, w/predictable results. I suggested that the DA file a "too stupid to be a cop" charge, but they sadly could not find a legal basis for such a charge. Now I'll have to pester my state congresscritter.

wv: "peciatio". Say it forcefully, it sounds plausible as Latin for "dumbass".