Sunday, March 09, 2008

Just another lazy Sunday.

I will consider my day an outstanding success if I can get the Sunday Smith written this afternoon. Now that the WiFi network is up'n'running, I need to look into freshening the batteries in the iBook (and maybe ditto the Wall Street, as well as installing OS X on the older G3) so's I can pester y'all from the coziness of the front porch.

Speaking of the front porch...

In other news, my short-sightedness has left me facing the prospect of a whole day with only two Long Hammer IPA's in the fridge. Indiana's alcohol laws are subtly different from those of the last two states I lived in:

1) Alcohol on Sundays: In the Metro Atlanta and Indianapolis areas, you will apparently burn in hell if you are allowed to purchase alcohol for off-premises consumption on a Sunday. Your immortal soul is safe in Knoxville, however, so long as you do so after 10:00AM (don't want the Baptists picking up a sixer on the way to church, I guess.)

2) Where To Buy: In Atlanta, hard liquor was available only at liquor stores, who also sold beer, mixers, chips, smokes, and whatnot. In Indy, you can get your whiskey at Kroger, or the CVS for that matter. In Knoxville, anything above an alcohol content of 6% (this includes wine and big beers) is only available at liquor stores, which are not allowed to sell anything but beverages with greater than 6% ABV; no chips, no mixers, no smokes, no newspapers, not bupkis.

19 comments:

Anonymous said...

Government screws up alcohol law nearly as badly as they screw up gun law.

Kristopher said...

At the Sinclair station in Powell, WY, they have a drive-up window, where you can buy, whiskey, cigarettes, and ammo.

rickn8or said...

Well Tam, in the other end of Tennessee, it's noon, because the Baptists don't want all the cold beer gone before they get out of church.

And let's not forget the 11-month, 29 -day sentence if you get caught inside a likker store with yore shootin' arn, CCW or not.

Tam said...

"And let's not forget the 11-month, 29 -day sentence if you get caught inside a likker store with yore shootin' arn, CCW or not."

I believe those signs are, like, six years out of date.

Totin' is okay in places where alcohol is sold for off-premises consumption only. This was passed back in late '01 or early '02, when I was still living in the apartment in West Hills...

Jeff said...

No Alcohol sales on an Election day either... Go figure, At least its a relatively free state..

Tam said...

Hell, if we voted while drunk we might lose our inhibitions and vote for who we wanted instead of who we thought might win or who our neighbors liked...

bedlamite said...

Here in WI, the only restriction is you can't purchase alcohol before 8am or after 9pm. However, expect some funny looks when you show up at 8am to buy a 12 pack, even after working night shift.

doubletrouble said...

HOORAY!
You have discovered the goodness on Redhook IPA.

From NH, I might add...

Turk Turon said...

Wow! An Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms drive-up window! We need those in VA.

Sevesteen said...

If I remember Indiana right, you could sell hard liquor in a stand-alone liquor store, or attached to a pharmacy. You couldn't sell cold beer and cold pop in the same store--A grocery with pharmacy would sell warm beer and cold pop, most liquor stores would sell the beer cold, and have a pop machine outside the door.

In Ohio, we have state stores (usually run by a contractor) for anything over 40 proof. We can carry where liquor is sold, but not where it is served. There's confusion about whether beer counts as liquor, and nobody wants to be a felony test case.

Anonymous said...

I know the feeling well. Lived up in Ft. Wayne for six years and never did get used to the Sunday thing.

jed said...

Dunno if it's changed since I lived there, but in Oregon, only the Oregon Liquor Control Commission stores could carry liquor. I don't recall whether they carried any mixers, but I think they carried smokes. I believe they were closed on Sunday.

The grocery stores could carry beer and wine.

In Colorado, a liquor store can carry beer and wine as well as hard liquor, plus mixers, bar knick-knacks, cigars, cigarettes, and I assume even chew, though I haven't seen any Copenhagen or Red Man. But they have to be closed on Sunday.

The grocery can carry beer, though I don't know what the alcohol limit is.

I've never looked for beer at the WalMart with the big grocery section, but that one still has firearms, last I looked. I dunno if it'd be legal for them to stock beer in the same store that has guns and/or ammo. Haven't heard of such a law, but maybe there is one.

HTRN said...

Heeheehee.

NY allows Beer purchases at 8AM on Sunday, and that's only for stores that follow the law, which seems to be almost universally ignored by small stores.

And if you want crazy liquor laws, check out PA - only allowed to buy 12 pack or less most places(where you can find sellers), otherwise it's a distributor(who generally keep hours that a banker would envy), All liquor and wine sales are through state run(and badly at that)Liquor stores that are few and far between, as well as keeping inconveinent hours and tacking on an 18% surcharge, buying booze out of state is illegal... It's no wonder Kegerators are so popular there - when buying beer is a pain in the ass, you tend to buy alot in one shot. The upside is that PA has kept it's brewing tradition, where most places it curled up and died during prohibition. Breweries like Yuengling(the oldest operating brewery in the US) and Iron City kept running, and new breweries like Weyerbacher are opening. All told 70 different breweries are operating there today.

Rob K said...

At least you can still go to a restaurant and get served on Sunday.

Only liquor stores are allowed to sell beer cold in Indiana. Everybody else can sell pretty much anything other than that.

Redhook's IPA is good stuff. Have you found a place that sells Ruination?

rickn8or said...

Tam--

You're probably right; probably removed about the same time as restrictions on carrying where beer is sold for off-premises consumption.

I did not see any mention of it in TCA 39.17.xx, but I only took a real fast look.

What I was going by was that most places still have the signs up, although not as prominently displayed as before, i.e. up near the ceiling or where you would see them only on the way out.

A few places have armed clerks/ security, or a sign at the entrance prohibiting carry, but that's another kettle of fish entirely.

Next visit, I'll look for the TCA annotation and see if it's still valid.

Not that I worried about it anyway, I've never seen/heard anyone being prosecuted for liquor store carry that wasn't also being prosecuted for robbing the place also.

Feanaro said...

In Alabama, you ain't gettin' any chugs more powerful than beer without visiting an ABC, "Alcoholic Beverage Control," store. If they don't have what you want, well, that sucks. And, with a few exceptions, no alcohol on Sunday. At all.

The laws are dumb, dumb, dumb. But there are too many holy rollers to even THINK about getting them changed.

Katie said...

I remember how baffled I was when I first moved to Oregon from California. I walked into a supermarket at 10pm on a Thursday night, looking for a bottle of Captain Morgan. The people working there thought I was nuts.

Apparently, in Oregon, you can get liqour in a liqour store until 7pm. And none on Sunday. Seriously? In Cali, I'm pretty sure I could get hard alchohol until 2 am anywhere that was still open, any day of the week.

As for beer, I think those are available at the grocery store/gas station until...11? I don't usually buy beer late, so I'm not sure.

chris said...

thats ok, here in NC, the ABC (state run) stores close at 9pm and arent open Sundays... alcohol is prohibited for sale before noon on sundays...

but we do have drive-through beer stores... and i mean literally, a door at the rear and a door at the front, you drive your car into the building and someone comes to your car to ask you what you need... kinda cool

danny said...

No way! OS 8/9 totally owns OSX!