Thursday, October 13, 2005

Boomsticks: Uh-oh...

Dr. StrangeGun is thinking outside the box again...

He's on to something, though. What makes the 1911 so popular is its skinniness (relative to caliber), its relatively low bore axis (enhanced by things like beavertails and high-hand cuts), and its direct trigger linkage. If all those factors could be shrunk into a quality pocket pistol, I'd have a good replacement for my Jetfire; which is something that the credit-card-with-an-awful-trigger KelTecs will never be...

9 comments:

Zendo Deb said...

Do you like .25 ACP?

The only thing that makes the Kel-Teks even remotely interesting is that they now come in .380

Anonymous said...

I think I will stick with the Bersa .380... a bit larger, but better than the KT

Dennis said...

In my small opinion, a .25 auto in the hands of a skilled marksman under ideal conditions and a calm day has been known to ,rarely, make an almost decent paperweight.
I would carry that model in .22 over the .25

Dr. StrangeGun said...

I still dare anyone to stand downrange and catch a 35gr Hornady XTP pill moving at 1050fps...

Zendo Deb said...

.22 over .25? Is .22 LR "better" than .25 ACP?

(I just had a long discussion in which everyone extolling the virtues of .45 ACP because it was all about width of the wound channel)

Dennis said...

Zendodeb,
From what I have read, the .25 has a tendancy to go in basically a straight line an lodge in the target.
The.22 has more of a tendancy to "bounce around" in the target and cause a more devestating wound.
Couple that with a higher tendancy of the "average" .25 to jam or misfire more often than the "average" .22, I would pick a .22 over a.25
That hving been said, I would NEVER willingly pick either one for serious social work given a
choice of something that had a caliber beginning with a.4
Your mileage may vary.

Tam said...

Neither .22LR nor .25ACP is what one would call a raging powerhouse of a round (neither are .32 or .380, for that matter.) Arguing about their power is like drag racing a rental Taurus with a slipping torque converter against a VW MicroBus. ie, about as exciting and meaningful as watching paint dry.

What I like about .25 is that its shorter cartridge OAL and semi-rim allow it to be fitted in theoretically much tidier packages than the longer, rimmed .22 round.

With pipsqueak cartridges like these, "hittability" is more important to me than miniscule differences in power, hence my preference for the single action Jetfire over the various double-action .32's.

Dennis said...

Tam,
I agree, as I said,for serious social work, I prefer something that starts with a 4.
That having been said, if for some reason you must carry something in mousegun caliber, and "hittability" being the issue, practice becomes more important, and .22 is much cheaper than .25.
S&W used to make a gun called the "Escort" (late 60's). I don't know if it is still available, but the two (2) I had the opportunity to try out were both extremley accurate (within the limitations of of thier size,)and extremley reliable.
They were about the size of your Jetfire.

Oleg Volk said...

What about Kahr PM9? Almost as small and its trigger isn't bad....