Wednesday, May 30, 2012

You have got to be kidding me.

The People's Republic of China, renowned for being the land of imprisoned dissidents, prison labor, and making the next of kin pay for the bullets at their stadium executions, actually has a critique of the United States' human rights record on their consulate's website, which is like having Genghis Khan critique your table manners.

The highlight for me is, of course, this part:
The United States prioritizes the right to keep and bear arms over the protection of citizens' lives and personal security and exercises lax firearm possession control, causing rampant gun ownership. The U.S. people hold between 35 percent and 50 percent of the world' s civilian-owned guns, with every 100 people having 90 guns...
...which means ten of y'all are slackers who need to get with the program.

Apparently, the Chinese think that it's a human rights violation to murder somebody with a firearm, unless they're on their knees with their hands tied behind their back and you shoot them behind the ear, preferably while wearing a snappy uniform.

With all the preachifying we do on human rights, all while incarcerating people at a near-record clip and with a Supreme Court that goes back and forth on the constitutionality of executing retarded kids (current thinking is "no" by a 5-4 squeaker,) it's only to be expected that we'll get some pushback, but China? Seriously? China?

Of all the people at this AA meeting, you're the last one needs to be pointing fingers, Hu. Don't you have some Tibetans you need to be off oppressing or something? Now get your butt back in the kitchen and make me an iPod.


(H/T to David Codrea.)

33 comments:

Divemedic said...

Be fair: 10% of the country is less than 7 years old. They aren't slackers, they just can't see over the gun store's counter, yet.

Tam said...

I see this as a vast, un-tapped market.

New Jovian Thunderbolt said...

A statist govvie type afraid of proles with guns? Feature, not a bug.

docjim505 said...

Did this cite come from the ChiComs or the Dept. of Justice???

Rignerd said...

If the ratio is 90/100 that means that about 80 are slacking off in my group.

Hey, you over there, fill your hands!

Ed Foster said...

docjim505 wins.

And snappy uniforms? Their class A's have finally made it up into the Russian Admiral/Ritz Carleton doorman, but the non-camo utilities are still kind Mao on the Long March.

I've always been amused at the smoky lens through which libertards view gun ownership, and the careful pussyfooting around they do on the subject of actual numbers.

The only nationwide, scientific, and peer reviewed study done on firearms ownership is the annual University of Chicago project, run since 1950. Anything else is B.S.

The left will deliberately use specious and very selfserving estimates, but when pushed to actually quote a source, they dig up an old U/Chi report from the 1960's, when the figure was around 250 million.

Going to the source, we see that the 1950 figure was 40 million people, each owning an average of 5firearms. 200 million.

By 2009, that had grown to 85 million people, each owning an average of 6 firearms. Call it a half a billion plus.

But they can't actually quote that figure without legitimising firearms ownership, since firearms violence has been dropping like a stone since the late '70's while the number of legally owned weapons has increased by more than 200 million.

If "Liberals" listened to anyone other than each other than each other, they might be able to think instead of feel. Of course, if they did that, they wouldn't be liberals would they?

Jay G said...

Every 100 people have 90 guns?

I guess I cover most of Massachusetts then...

Boat Guy said...

I'm with Jay. If those numbers were true there are about 85-90 of my "cohort" who need to step up.
Human rights criticism by PRC is a badge of honor. "You are known by your enemies"

Borepatch said...

Now get your butt back in the kitchen and make me an iPod.

Win.

Interesting which rights violations - and particularly by whom - gets on the old radar, eh?

Tam said...

Jay, Boat Guy,

Yeah, according to those numbers, I'm carrying the load for over a hundred people myself. ;)

staghounds said...

I was wondering why no one from China ever moves to the United States.

The U. S. also exercises lax book possession control, which somehow fails to cause rampant "Quotations from Chairman Mao" ownership.

Randy said...

When an individual shoots somebody it's a crime, but when a government kills it is protecting it's citizens from dangerous ideas. I guess it's preventing thought crime.

God, Gals, Guns, Grub said...

Well, the Chinese really prefer poisoning to shooting...

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/series/toxicpipeline/index.html

Dann in Ohio

azmountaintroll said...

The Japanese: "You cannot invade America. There is a rifle behind every blade of grass."

The Chinese: "The U.S. people hold between 35 percent and 50 percent of the world' s civilian-owned guns, with every 100 people having 90 guns."

The Japanese are poets, the Chinese bean counters. But the sentiment is the same.

Elizabeth said...

I am one of the liberals who supports the Second Ammendment with a passion. In about a year I've been able to convert 4 other liberals into gun owners and have convinced 10 others into thinking guns are no longer icky. Those of us who are not closed minded are trying here.

Brad K. said...

The bold statement reviling American civilian gun ownership just happens to support the international treaty that Sec'y State Clinton and B. Hussein Obama have been championing since before the last election.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/10/15/us-arms-usa-treaty-idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

I wonder whether our State Department applied any pressure, or maybe offered another incentive, to get China to make that particular plaint? I mean, it isn't as if Sec'y State Clinton and B. Hussein Obama paraded the President of Mexico to cheer on the "gun walker" program premise.

SoupOrMan said...

I thought it was "Get back in the kitchen and knit me a pie." I suppose I could switch that to "knit me an iPod" but it seems so futuristic.

Nathan said...

"The U.S. people hold between 35 percent and 50 percent of the world' s civilian-owned guns, with every 100 people having 90 guns."

Sounds like envy to me.

docjim505 said...

azmountaintroll - The Japanese: "You cannot invade America. There is a rifle behind every blade of grass."

I recall reading that, after Pearl Harbor, the Tennessee game commissioner asked the governor if he needed to issue hunting licenses for Japanese soldiers should they ever get to the Volunteer State (!). The governor replied that he would simply declare open season on them.

trevalyan said...

For real, has anyone here actually read that report? When you compare it to-

http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/hrrpt/humanrightsreport/index.htm?dynamic_load_id=186268#wrapper

- it's almost like one was written by diplomats who take human rights seriously and in a relatively objective manner, while the other was written by propagandists who think the fates of Trayvon Martin, Occupy, and Helen Thomas collectively indicate a fascist regime.

... annnnnnnd I JUST figured out why the media was giving this propaganda any credibility at all. Bad Rohan, no cookie.

Matt G said...

This would be the same Chinese government that owns Norinco, right?

Anonymous said...

Classic case of pistol envy.

Gerry

Anonymous said...


The United States is the world's richest country, but quite a lot of Americans still lack guarantee for their economic, social and cultural rights that are necessary for personal dignity and self-development.

The United States has not done enough to protect its citizens from unemployment. At no time in the last 60 years had the country's long-term unemployment been so high for so long as it was in 2011. It has been one of the Western developed countries that provide the poorest protection over laborer's rights. It has not yet approved any international labor organization convention in the last 10 years. Moreover, the United States lacks effective arbitration system to deal with enterprises that refuse to make compromise with the employees.


Converting the irony here to electricity would be lethal.


There is the state trade union which supports business and state interests, not those of workers... and police beat independent trade unionists. Or they are convicted and imprisoned.

Tam said...

"The United States is the world's richest country, but quite a lot of Americans still lack guarantee for their economic... rights"

Whereas a totalitarian country will give you a job whether you want one or not, citizen.

DirtCrashr said...

Whereas a totalitarian country will give you a job whether you want one or not, citizen. Like in North Korea where the peasants are human lawn-mowers - and they call it a salad-bar...

Robert Fowler said...

Elizabeth said...
I am one of the liberals who supports the Second Ammendment with a passion. In about a year I've been able to convert 4 other liberals into gun owners and have convinced 10 others into thinking guns are no longer icky.

God bless you Elizabeth. Keep up the good fight.

Kristopher said...

Come and take them, Hu.

Paul said...

The Nazi's had gun control. The Soviets good gun control. Pol Pot had it. Mao had it.

Ever notice all of them have fallen. Even China had to go to 'free markets' to even tread water.

Their idea of safety is safety of the STATE. Not of the people. Remember, totalitarians feel the state is everything the person nothing.

Sure we own maybe 50 percent of the worlds civilian-owned guns. FREE PEOPLE HAVE GUNS, SLAVES DON'T. And we will keep our guns and our freedom.

Anonymous said...

Paul: Yeah, crippling debt, and they tell us what guns we can have, what safety accessories we can have, and our local police tell us that they dont have to obey the Constitution, and we have to obey them.

Ever look at your tax form? Tell me where our liberty is.

You dont own your land, your home, and the fed has put it so you technically dont even own any money. You cant grow your own food or cattle, and if you do, and dont pay the piper, they come and shoot your livestock and burn your crops with poisons.

I keep hearing how the 2nd amendment keeps us free. Seems that too many people wave bumper sticker slogans around and dont get active in fixing the issue.

Derfel Cadarn said...

When I want advice from the Chinese I open a fortune cookie. Until that time shut up!

RevolverRob said...

If we own 50% of the world's civilian-owned firearms, who owns the OTHER 50%? Because by my recollection MOST of the rest of the free world is "enlightened" and therefore does not have or has severely restricted, firearms ownership.

John said...

I was most amused by:

"The United States prioritizes the right to keep and bear arms over the protection of citizens' lives and personal security"

It is a perfect demonstration of a basic misunderstanding of the RTKBA. People keep guns for protection and personal security. It is, in fact, the strongest method of providing personal security. The police are not here to protect you, merely to try and find the guy who harmed you. The view above, common among all anti-gun groups, is that only government can or should provide protection and personal security despite millenia of evidence that the biggest threat to personal security is usually government (see China, for example)

Anonymous said...

I will always remember the main quote from when I was working in China. As a senior Chinese scientist commented to me about freedom.

"You american's are so obsessed with freedom. Its not like you can eat it"