Saturday, July 28, 2012

His gun went to 11...

"You got any o' them Class III guns?"

Sigh. There's no such thing as a "Class III gun", Cletus...

The AK-57: Ten Clicks Deadlier Than The Regular AK-47!
Authorities are claiming that the earwitnesses in Pendleton, IN weren't wrong yesterday morning: Allegedly, the gun had been converted to fire full auto.

Things are not cleared up in the article at all, because the news station interviewed local police and a local non-Title 2 FFL, and between a reporter, the local cops, and the proprietor of Joe-Bob's Guns, you could take everything they know about NFA compliance and write it on the back of a postage stamp. In Sharpie.

19 comments:

God, Gals, Guns, Grub said...

"An AK-47 semi automatic assault rifle: high powered, intimidating and sold at most gun stores across Indiana."

I think I'm gonna get a refund on my gun... it didn't come with any intimidation...

Dann in Ohio

Joseph said...

Why is it pertinent that Local LE don't know who owns full-auto weapons if the gun was illegally modified?

The pearl clutching going on lately is really annoying.

hooper said...

Now I can't get that dang song out of my head.

"A combination AK-57 Uzi radar laser triple barrel double scoped heat-seekin' shotgun"

Ken O said...

It needs a shoulder thing that goes up.

Brad K. said...

OK, color me ignorant. Why, if the gun was firing fully automatic, did the police have enough chalk to draw rings around each of the (threat to public safety) many cartridges that would have littered the ground? And if firing fully auto, why not a camera shot of a *bunch* of casings on the ground, when they could only get two into the camera frame?

I thought issue of fully automatic weapons in the hands of bad guys was the vasty number of rounds fired in a short time (which WWII kinda insinuates means lots more misses). So, where are all the scads of casings if the lead were storming all around? Where were pictures of distinctive patterns of impacts trailing across the landscape?

I am also confused why pictures of a guy shooting up a pond is supposed to mean anything to me. And while they were in the gun store and talking prices, why not let people know how much ammo costs when going full auto. If, that is, you go full auto. And how much ammo you would expect to use at a firing range, monthly, to maintain a modicum of proficiency?

I heard a radio report the other day on some guy that they caught before he was going to shoot something up -- and he had forty guns, and over 400 rounds of ammo! Let's see, that makes 10 rounds per gun. That, or most are mantlepiece treasures, and not actually being used. Four hundred rounds doesn't sound like much, to me, to take to the firing range for long, for very many guns. Why, I must have 150 rounds in my house, and thieves walked off with my .22 a couple years ago!

The Great and Powerful Oz said...

A 7.62x39 is "high power"? There are pistols available in that caliber. Now a 7.62x54r is high power and so is a .300 Win Mag, but an AK-47 has trouble shooting more than about a city block.

RandyGC said...

But 13 Investigates learned that $200 keeps local law enforcement officers in the dark about who legally owns a full automatic or machine gun.

So when did they rescind the CLEO sign-off requirement?

Critter said...

i got interviewed after the theater shooting, which might have been due to the instructor patch on the uniform or it might have been because everyone else sensible had bugged out. anyway, the "news" crew was dirt ignorant, as one would expect, and had a list of all the usual questions: how can we keep these AK47's out of the hands of the public? (yes, the bad guy in question had something else. this was before anyone knew anything so the "news" was being true to form) how can a high powered rifle, like the AK47, be sold in any gun shop?, etc. i calmly explained what "assault rifle" meant, the differences in catridges, including a 30-06 and a 7.62x39 with visual aids, and how these things were perfectly legal to own. they nodded, got me on video and left. last i heard, i didn't make it through the editorial process.

Reno Sepulveda said...

In the wake of the Aurora shooting I notice almost all the media and anti-gun commenters are using terms like Automatic and "Military Grade" when referring to any semi auto. It's almost like they are all reading off the same page of instructions.

That said, being from CA, I know less than bupkis (that's Yiddish for Lawrence O'donnell) about NFA stuff.

Ken said...

A chisel-point Sharpie (do they make those?).

Anonymous said...

" It's almost like they are all reading off the same page of instructions."

After the "Journo-list" kerfuffle or whatever it was called ( it should have a been a major scandal) , all I can say is: " Ya think?"

No saying all the local news numpties are on some secret mailing list, but they call come through the same schools and hang out in the same professional echo chamber.

I'm not shocked they have the same script in their little heads.

Tam said...

RandyGC,

"So when did they rescind the CLEO sign-off requirement?"

Soon, supposedly.

Kristopher said...

RandyGC: You can get around it by having an LLC or a trust buy the MG, but the LLC must be kept continually active, and you had best pay a lawer to set up the trust in your home state.

An option for those who have pantswetters for pretending to head their local law enforcement office. The LLC option moved an awful lot of MGs in Oregon that had been held up by hippies who were elected to run the police in the Willamette Valley.

Kristopher said...

Tam: The reason the ATF actually wanted this was because they could not do a full background check on LLC and Trust owners.

doug galecawitz said...

i love you. as consistently funny as your writing is, you should be in hollywood or TV or doing stand up. i wish i could write humor like you.

global village idiot said...

Oh yeah? Well, my gun goes up to 11.

gvi

Anonymous said...

@ Brad K.: AKs tend to launch empty cases with vigor, the rest likely landed in another zipcode. ;-)

Brad K. said...

@ Anon 4:09,

That being so, I still don't see the point of a picture of two casings. I mean, if the point is to show the massive size of the shells . . um, I am underwhelmed. If the point is that there are more than one . . duh! I can put (OK, could put) two or ten .22 casings on the floor or ground, and it was tube fed and bolt action. So the picture begs the question -- if only two rounds were expended, what does it matter if it was fully auto, semi-auto, or hand freaking loaded ball and patch? So the picture just doesn't add any content to the article. Which article Tam already pointed out was bereft of useful, accurate information.

Woodman said...

I live there and I still don't know what happened.

From what I can tell he didn't even know the guy he killed was there. Just a demonstration shot?

Also, Flak Jacket /= Armored Vest. One of these things stops bullets, the other one is handy for making a 2 mile run hell.